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Hey, When I leave off my heel edge on frontside 3's I lean back for some reason instead of staying vertical. What do I need to do so I'm not always leaning back and landing on my arse or face? I have been leading spins with my front arm ? Any suggestions on what I am doing wrong?

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Leaning back as on your heel edge or putting your weight on your tail edge?
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Is there a counter measure for this (e.g.) start rotation with back shoulder ? Sorry about these noobish questions, It is starting to get on my nerves.

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In my mind for any rotation 3 or more, I like to think of starting the snap with my back hip and shoulder because it tends to carry me off the lip smoother. The downside is the timing means I have to wait, wait, wait until the last possible moment to snap it around and sometimes I still mess up and end up facing 90 and getting the rotation but losing so much speed I'll knuckle badly.

If you are leaning backwards and it's throwing you off balance, this timing technique will also tend to help but make sure you aren't also putting your weight on the back foot. This will tend to make you throw your back shoulder up and around your head like a batter trying to swing up on a pitch which will tend to cork your spin. This could be why you are ending up biffing on the landing but without seeing it it's hard to say. Anyway, I'm sure cr0 will stop by and provide better info than I can but that sounds like what's happening to me.
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I think your right on as, I do feel like I am corking not spinning . Thanks for your input..

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In my mind for any rotation 3 or more, I like to think of starting the snap with my back hip and shoulder because it tends to carry me off the lip smoother. The downside is the timing means I have to wait, wait, wait until the last possible moment to snap it around and sometimes I still mess up and end up facing 90 and getting the rotation but losing so much speed I'll knuckle badly.

If you are leaning backwards and it's throwing you off balance, this timing technique will also tend to help but make sure you aren't also putting your weight on the back foot. This will tend to make you throw your back shoulder up and around your head like a batter trying to swing up on a pitch which will tend to cork your spin. This could be why you are ending up biffing on the landing but without seeing it it's hard to say. Anyway, I'm sure cr0 will stop by and provide better info than I can but that sounds like what's happening to me.
In the beginning, pretty much EVERYONE pre-rotates a ton going up the ramp... this kills your speed and also you will have a tendency to lean both back against the heeledge AND towards the tail... badness.

Like Cheese said, you need to wait REALLY late to start your rotation. Like board is half past the lip of the jump late (you are likely starting you rotation much earlier than you think you are... so I'm taking that into account... as teaching you to be more aware of your body positioning is a whole 'nother lesson).

You should practice doing straight airs off your heel edge... when you can land those without skidding/flailing... progress to frontside 180s with no arm swing (you should be able to do it holding your hands behind your back... if you have to let go to balance yourself... you did it wrong). Finally frontside 360s... again... don't rotate until you line of sight past the lip and looking back down at the landing (this help keep you from leaning back)... and for me I really like think of pulling my back knee UP and around... that really keeps your rotation smooth as a lot of people rotating with their lead arm and knee... but forget to follow with their back shoulder and knee and end up stalling and flailing.
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Thanks for the tips Guys

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