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CalvaryCougar 01-08-2012 02:08 AM

a little help with backside 180s?
 
back1.avi - YouTube

any tips or anything you see that im doing wrong? i feel like i have a tendency to go corked when im not meaning to

lonerider 01-08-2012 02:11 AM

Don't counter-rotate your arms in the opposite direction of the spin (it's the arm flail you do while in the air).

BurtonAvenger 01-08-2012 02:24 AM

keep your head up, don't counter rotate, and stop throwing your upper body so hard just toss from the hips

CalvaryCougar 01-08-2012 02:27 AM

should i not be using my arms at all?

DrrrtyChurro 01-08-2012 03:13 AM

The tricks so mellow you shouldn't need to "toss" This trick is all in your head and approach. Come into the jump almost like going straight off.

Drop in, go straight into it, as you reach the bottom of it, roll onto your heel edge and then as you go up the jump roll onto your toe edge so you go off the jump straight, dont have to carve on the lip for this trick.
Your approach should be pretty straight.

once you get your approach done, you go off the lip. pop off of your toes slightly, "look with your head" over your back shoulder and spot the landing. Turning your shoulders smoothly and not jerking your upper body. you'll spin the 180 and land it.

You look like you got it. Just try to do it smooth. Its one of the easiest tricks, learn it, love it, and keep it steezy, it'll probably become your favourite trick once you start hitting bigger jumps, feels sooo good doing a slow rotating bs180 with a tweaked out grab off a nice jump.

Check out snowboard addiction, I've watched all their free videos and they are really helpful, explains things well and has some key information in them! They got stuff on vimeo and youtube so check both!

This video from them has some great information about approach, even if you aren't out there chuckin 540's and 720's How to 360, 540 and 720 Frontside or Backside (regular riders) from Snowboard Addiction. - YouTube

slyder 01-08-2012 09:54 AM

to me it looked you weren't spotting your landing cleanly. You were looking down at your board and not spotting your landing. I think that may also help you.

CheeseForSteeze 01-09-2012 01:14 AM

I'd take your setup carve and move it up a little bit so you aren't carving across the lip so hard. When you step it up to bigger tables, this will kill your speed which at best will cause you to knuckle and worst, can make you panic at the last second and get really off balance. Just throw it a bit more mellow, smoother pop, not as much upper body motion for this one as everyone has pointed out above. You're pretty close. Spot the landing just a tad longer until you feel your edge lock and you've stomped it.

BA's advice of keeping your head up is probably the biggest tip for all of riding IMO. I find myself having to remind myself to do that here and there every day when trying new stuff. It's amazing how much this effects stuff. Motorcyclist use this technique for everything.

semajgnik 01-09-2012 09:06 PM

your problem is you're trying to look forward right away. you're trying to do a backside 180 you're SUPPOSED to land BLIND. this means you're looking up the mountain when you land and slowly look down the mountain once your stable. not landing blind is whats causing you to keep spinning when you land.

semajgnik 01-09-2012 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CalvaryCougar (Post 463288)
should i not be using my arms at all?

keep using your arm if its helping you rotate. you'll use it less for 180s once you get better at it. everyone here who keeps telling you to not use ur arm cuz its small rotation most likely used the arms when they were first learning.

LAND BLIND.

Qball 01-09-2012 09:33 PM

Try not to start the spin before you leave the lip (pre-spinning). Focus on popping before your start your rotation and keeping a quiet upper body. Turn your head and spot the lip of the jump and keep in there until you land, this will help you stop the rotation and ride away clean.


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