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Butterscotch 01-09-2012 07:56 PM

I Am Completely Lost
 
First of all, this is under my fiance's user name so I don't want to make it seem like he's the noob having all of these problems. But on to the trouble I've been having:

I am a beginner to snowboarding as this is my first season. I have all of the basics pretty well nailed down; I can go switch, ride heel side and toe side, stop without fail, can intermediately carve on heel/toe side and have no trouble with navigating around people in immediate situations. What I am having trouble with is finding that point to turn from heel side to toe side(vice versa) while carrying speed. And I do mean ANY speed whatsoever. It feels like I'm reducing myself to pretty much stopping and guiding the board around with my front foot and then slowly leaning onto the transitioning side.

I've gone snowboarding about 6 or 7 times now and yes, that's not really enough time to start complaining, but I really am stuck and have tried literally everything, even not thinking about it. It seems like one of my biggest problems is that I'll get a decent speed going across the mountain and go to transition back across and as soon as I start getting my board pointed downwind, it picks up immense speed. I know I had an issue with leaning on my back foot too much in which case I wouldn't be able to turn the board at all, but that isn't the case now. I can get the board turned just fine but I'll begin turning the board, and lowering my edge to prepare for the transition and as soon as I do, I catch my other edge or I just shoot off like a rocket down the hill.

We even messed around a little in our backyard with what little bit of snow we got this evening and found that I went waay faster than my fiance that was purposefully trying to go faster than me. I'm a fast learner, and I honestly feel comfortable with all that I am doing on the slopes, I just don't know how to fix this issue. I had heard something about twisting the board in a manner that would make the board turn, and it was suggested to me that this was something that everyone does whether they realize it or not. I may be subconsciously doing something like this but I don't know how to refine it and recognize it to make me a better rider. I've watch several of Snowolf's videos for beginners and on up and found them quite helpful, but this is something that I think he covered that just isn't sitting correctly in my mind. Any hints or suggestions or even any further questions to help me uncover what's going on?

Justin 01-09-2012 08:04 PM

what i find can help with that is making sure ur bent and then giving a little push on which ever edge ur on, this will pop your weight up and make it easy to switch edges quickly because you are light on your feet.

this is what i do right now as im learning switch. also, obviously stay ballanced or have a slight bit more weight on your front leg.

wrathfuldeity 01-09-2012 09:32 PM

Fear of speed...speed is your friend when turning.

Learning to move forward, centered and aft on the board during different phases of the turn....its a timing and coordinating thing...do the count 1 for initiating, 2 for middle, 3 compleating/parellel with the hill and 4 dropping then nose to engage the next turn.

dropping leading shoulder and bending/driving leading knee when going toeside

raising leading shoulder and swinging the leading knee toward the nose when going heelside

also men and women don't ride the same...women are smoother and work more form the hips :D;) and guys use more torso and legs.

wait for snowolf's advice.

Efilnikufesin 01-09-2012 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by wrathfuldeity (Post 464213)
Fear of speed...speed is your friend when turning.

Learning to move forward, centered and aft on the board during different phases of the turn....its a timing and coordinating thing...do the count 1 for initiating, 2 for middle, 3 compleating/parellel with the hill and 4 dropping then nose to engage the next turn.

dropping leading shoulder and bending/driving leading knee when going toeside

raising leading shoulder and swinging the leading knee toward the nose when going heelside

also men and women don't ride the same...women are smoother and work more form the hips :D;) and guys use more torso and legs.

wait for snowolf's advice.

Yes, speed is your friend when doing skidded turns, much easier to catch an edge when going too slow. I would add that when you are ending a heelside or toeside turn you should have already switched to the opposite edge before you attempt to turn the board downhill.

Snowwolf has some good videos in this section. It may take a few watches of listening to what he is saying and watching what he is doing before you understand what he means, but he does know what he is talking about. He would probably have some great exact advice if he was here atm.

MeanJoe 01-10-2012 10:00 AM

I have been riding for over 20 years and the movements that Snowolf presented in his post are just 2nd nature at this point and I rarely even think about them. It is really great though to read through his post, watch the videos, and mentally step through the movements, and even flex/release my ankles as I sit here at my desk mentally going through the process. It is such a great foundation set of movements/principles to riding, and this description and sets of drills is brilliant.

MeanJoe

Butterscotch 01-10-2012 04:13 PM

Thank you for all of your help everyone; I think I might see where I was going wrong.

Snowolf:

You have spelled out everything to the point of simplicity!! Thank you for taking your time to describe your methods so well. I know its a labor(and pain in some cases) of love for me already, and you've definitely given me reason to try harder.

Thanks guys!


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