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Old 01-11-2012, 04:16 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Shut up Dave. My lesson is sound.

But seriously, it was meant as a tool to get him used to the feeling of what it's like to be completely flat based. He should then take that technique to the slopes and learn the ropes of staying flat on varying conditions.

Man, you've been anti Leo lately. Just because I hate on your faded turd hoodie.
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Also remember you can pressure an edge without being on an edge.
bingo, i like that one.
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Old 01-11-2012, 04:31 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Since your board has reverse camber sections it can get squirrely. Keep the weight either a bit forward or stay very slightly on edge. What you could be feeling with the board turning too much when on edge is the effect of the magne-traction causing it to bite and turn more than you'd like.Trying to totally flat base a board with a RC combo profile can be really tricky.

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Since your board has reverse camber sections it can get squirrely. Keep the weight either a bit forward or stay slightly on edge. Trying to totally flat base a board with a RC combo profile can be really tricky.
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I remember the frustration of not being able to flat-base when I was starting out. Loose & balanced is the name of the game. You need quick reaction time and that just comes with practice & developing good muscle memory. Leo's preferred lesson will not help you unless the terrain is also really smooth you need to be able to react very quickly to bumps, ruts, etc., that will want to redirect you and throw you off that balance resulting in the dreaded edge-catch-to-scorpion.

Also remember you can pressure an edge without being on an edge.
Yes loose and balanced...but no you can't react fast enough for bumps ruts and stuff...that's why you keep loose and learn to "float" over them. You get in trouble trying to react to them...cause you will stiffen/tighten up and get tossed. Floating is keeping your body balanced and going in the intended direction...directly down the fall line...thus no edges to catch. The having your legs loose...usually sucking up the knees to absorb the bumps and if you get air time...just keep compacted (i.e., no flaying about) and absorb landing...don't try to turn or slow down until you are back in contact with the snow.
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Very true, as I found out the other day.
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Leo has a great point.
oh good job, now he is going to start doing an "i told you so" victory dance
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I am not by any means an expert, but I have found that on long flats where I need to go as straight and fast as possible, I actually weight my BACK foot. Or maybe I am just weighting evenly, and to me it feels like I'm too far back since I'm used to being further forward when riding more dynamically.

Basically though I take a lot of weight off my front foot, and crouch down to limit wind resistance, and rest my elbows (and therefore my entire upper body) on my back knee. This helps keep my hips/chest/shoulders parallel to the board (which is much different than how I twist them when carving), and I can also get very slightly on either edge and go ALMOST straight. In my mind it is preferable to be going ALMOST straight (but on an edge)... true you have to cover slightly more distance, but you decrease the friction between the board and the snow by more than enough to make up for it. I find it easy in the position I described to rock from rail to rail every so gently and give the illusion that I am going straight, but keep greater control and speed. Plus, I hate being 100% flat because I am always paranoid the wrong rail will catch first if the board starts drifting.
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when i first learning how to go straight, i used to put pressure on both edges on different leg (i.e. front foot heel, back foot toe, or vice versa). now i just become lazy and stand still, which may not work to my advantage these days because i'm so accustomed to it that i just stand there on most runs that i do.
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Yes loose and balanced...but no you can't react fast enough for bumps ruts and stuff...that's why you keep loose and learn to "float" over them. You get in trouble trying to react to them...cause you will stiffen/tighten up and get tossed. Floating is keeping your body balanced and going in the intended direction...directly down the fall line...thus no edges to catch. The having your legs loose...usually sucking up the knees to absorb the bumps and if you get air time...just keep compacted (i.e., no flaying about) and absorb landing...don't try to turn or slow down until you are back in contact with the snow.
Yeah you're right I guess "react" was maybe a poor choice of words since my "reaction" to these conditions is pretty much just what you describe: floating and absorbing the chatter with your knees rather than trying to muscle through it, and especially not stiffening up.

Also to OP check your speed whenever you get too fast for comfort!
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