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Old 01-18-2012, 06:58 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Alot of different brands now do canted footbeds, Rome targas I like, ride does them as does k2 and I believe button cartels have them, I'm sure others do also, maybe try the Rome 390 boss depends on riding style I guess, and I misunderstood but canted should help with both legs.

Effectively it lines your ankle up with you leg so it's the same as if you were standing straight up, imagine standing with you legs wide apart, now you can see how that would stretch the muscles and ligaments/tendons as your feet would be flat but you legs would be wide. Now imagine standing at the same stance with wedges under each feet that lined your ankles up in a neutral position equal to you legs, that's why it takes pressure off knees and ankles aswell as outside leg muscles such as the peroneal and ITB (upper outside thigh from hip to outside of knee).

I would def try canted footbed aswell as maybe seeing a podiatrist about getting some custom made full length orghotics, these more than anything help aleave shin, knee and hip pain and you may find your feet have alot to do with your problems.
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Old 01-19-2012, 12:14 PM   #12 (permalink)
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It's funny you mentioned you're using 32 boots and your having this problem. My situation could be completely unrelated to what you're dealing with but a couple of years ago I was dealing with this same problem and it sort of appeared out of nowhere. I tried different angles, widths binding/board position etc. and nothing seemed to help as I'd get this intense pain down the front of my leg near the shin between the knee and the ankle. Finally I thought about what was different from the season before and the only thing that I could pinpoint was my switch from Ride boots to very stiff 32 TM2 boots. I went back to my ride's from the previous season and the pain magically went away. The following season I switched to a Nitro boot and have since moved on to Northwave's and I have not encountered that problem again since.

I'm not saying it's definitely you're boots but I thought my experience which sounds similar warranted me chiming in on this discussion. Maybe try out a totally different pair somehow and see if that helps before you go crazy and start changing anything else...
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Old 01-19-2012, 12:52 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Based on how you described it, it sounds like canting would really help, especially because reducing your stance width seemed to help a little bit.

Try folding a trail map so it is a quarter inch thick and only an inch or two wide (may involve some cutting), and stick it on the part of your baseplate closest to the nose of your board (parallel with the lateral/outside of your foot). When you strap in, the lateral portion of your front foot should be standing on this trail map and it should lift/angle your foot slightly. This is a ghetto version of canting, but it works and is a good way to see if it will help, before you start throwing money and canting solutions. Just make sure you don't unstrap that front foot and ride for a few hours and you will see if it makes a difference or not.
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It's the boots. Don't waste your time with canting or changing angles. It is def the boots.
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Old 01-21-2012, 07:20 PM   #15 (permalink)
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It's funny you mentioned you're using 32 boots and your having this problem. My situation could be completely unrelated to what you're dealing with but a couple of years ago I was dealing with this same problem and it sort of appeared out of nowhere. I tried different angles, widths binding/board position etc. and nothing seemed to help as I'd get this intense pain down the front of my leg near the shin between the knee and the ankle. Finally I thought about what was different from the season before and the only thing that I could pinpoint was my switch from Ride boots to very stiff 32 TM2 boots. I went back to my ride's from the previous season and the pain magically went away. The following season I switched to a Nitro boot and have since moved on to Northwave's and I have not encountered that problem again since.

I'm not saying it's definitely you're boots but I thought my experience which sounds similar warranted me chiming in on this discussion. Maybe try out a totally different pair somehow and see if that helps before you go crazy and start changing anything else...
See, it's the boots. Same experience here.
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Old 01-21-2012, 07:23 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Perfect fitting boots, and not too stiff bindings were my solutions. It took me a shit ton of money to find the right boots....flipping boots sucks.
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Old 01-23-2012, 11:32 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Wow thanks for all the replies. The bindings thing sounded really promising but it sounds like some of you have had my exact problem and found out that it was the boots, so now I'm not sure what to do.

Lisevolution you mentioned that it was the muscle next to your shin that was aching - I'm wondering if you mean the tibialis anterior and not the peroneals. I know it seems like splitting hairs but the tibialis anterior would get tired if you felt the need to dorsiflex your foot constantly for stability, but the peroneals get tired if you're constantly everting your foot. This is why I thought the canted bindings might help since it seems to address the issue from a medial/lateral perspective rather than an anterior/posterior perspective.

The thing is I actually really like my boots. They're super snug but not so tight that they interfere with circulation. My big toe goes right to the end but just barely - so that my toes don't ache at the end of the day. And my heels don't ride up. So I can't imagine having boots that fit me better, though maybe that's not what you're saying...? Maybe it's the stiffness of the boot that's the problem?
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Old 01-23-2012, 12:44 PM   #18 (permalink)
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aj, again I'm not a doctor though looking at the diagrams of the two muscles/tendos we're talking about you may be right about my pain being in the tibalis anterior and not the peroneals which seem to be more in the ankle/foot region. That said those boots not only gave me the pain in my shin region but also in the ankle/top of top/side of my foot region, not all the way to my toes but I'd say stopping just before which I believe is the area you're experiencing your pain.

The thing that sucks with something like this is you won't know exactly what the problem is until you find what fixes it... it sounds like your boots fit you well, but again they may be too stiff to allow your foot the proper amount flexion they're looking for. IT could also be something as simple as just needing molded footbeds in your boots to solve the problem. Where do you live? I ask because if you live in an area near bigger mountains you will probably have a very experienced boot fitter near you who could definitely help you with your problem...
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Were you getting pain in your leg because of boot fit/tightness or because you were contracting that muscle all day? My peroneals aren't hurting because of the way the boot is pressing on them...I know that for sure. The problem is that for some reason I feel the need to contract these muscles at all times to feel stable. And now that I think about it this is the third pair of boots I've had since I first noticed the problem. It's also the third pair of bindings I've had. That's why I thought it might be a technique issue or maybe the way my bindings were set.
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Old 01-23-2012, 03:00 PM   #20 (permalink)
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i used to have TONS of leg pain from riding.. it took new boots.. and binding tweaks to get it to go away.. in my case the bindings were actually too close..

my single biggest issue was the boots.. they were too big and causing my heels to lift.. causing me to subconsciously constantly flex my leg muscles.. creating insane amounts of pain..
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