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Well it didn't go so well. The jump I was going to try them on was re-worked and not spin friendly. We went to a much smaller jump and I my body would just stop at 90*. So frustrating !!!!! Not sure why I just know it wasn't happening. I was riding with a buddy and he was having issues to and he's same as me we both started 3's today. He did nail one of a bigger park jump and he said it was much easier but I'm not ready to throw on that.

My legs were getting very weak, 10hour work day then riding. I stopped as it just wasn't gonna happen, no point in getting hurt. I'll try again this weekend.

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i'd bet $100 you're either pre-winding (counter-rotating) too much, or trying to spin too early before enough of you is off the lip.

you'll get it tho
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Not sure but I do know my rotation totally stopped. I can do it on dry with no board no sweat, once snow was under my feet. Totally froze up....

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i'd bet $100 you're either pre-winding (counter-rotating) too much, or trying to spin too early before enough of you is off the lip.

you'll get it tho
I agree. Watch that video on 360's, it really has pretty perfect technique for learning. If you learn the correct technique on small jumps(not hucking, and doing your setup carvings/turning correctly, leaving the lip of the jump correctly, etc), it will transfer over to larger jumps much better, even if you can already land 360's or 540's on small jumps. If you setup carve correctly as mentioned in that video and leave the jump by popping off of both feet on the proper edge(either toe side edge for BS spins, or heelside edge for FS spins), you should be able to spin without "hucking" or trying to use your upper body too much to force your lower body around.

As mentioned above if you straight line to the jump and simply try to "huck" the spin too much by pre-winding and using your upper body to spin, you'll not only be off balance going into the air, but chances are you won't complete the rotation, or will land off balance and fall even if you do. If you spin to early(you setup too early and get on your edge before the actual lip of the jump), you will lose a lot of speed, probably stop spinning as soon as you get into the air, and land on the knuckle as opposed to the landing.

Either way hopefully you can get it figured out and land your first 360. I got over the 360 hump fairly quickly, but landing 540's consistently, especially BS 540's, was difficult for me. Best of luck!
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I'd bet a little money that you were not leading with your head. For a FS 360 by the time your board leaves the snow your head should be almost facing completely to you heel side. It should stay pinned to your shoulder until you can spot the landing. This is very spooky since it means leaving the lib blind.


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Digz I live, breath and watch the SA video's to put me to sleep. I see the technique, I visualize me doing it, I can do it on dry land without a 2nd thought. Put snow under my feet, no go

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I'd bet a little money that you were not leading with your head. For a FS 360 by the time your board leaves the snow your head should be almost facing completely to you heel side. It should stay pinned to your shoulder until you can spot the landing. This is very spooky since it means leaving the lib blind.
I'm sure your right John, I did rotate my head but as soon as I leave the lip I think I stop rotating or start to look forward again, or something is going on there.

How important is the jump type/condition to spin 3's....I think I'm using this as an excuse but maybe the jump I'm working at is making it harder
I"m hoping to get some video this weekend so you/I can analyze what I'm doing right/wrong

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what about the idea of not leaning backwards while you are popping
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Well it didn't go so well. The jump I was going to try them on was re-worked and not spin friendly. We went to a much smaller jump and I my body would just stop at 90*. So frustrating !!!!! Not sure why I just know it wasn't happening. I was riding with a buddy and he was having issues to and he's same as me we both started 3's today. He did nail one of a bigger park jump and he said it was much easier but I'm not ready to throw on that.

My legs were getting very weak, 10hour work day then riding. I stopped as it just wasn't gonna happen, no point in getting hurt. I'll try again this weekend.
To me it just sound like you're not getting your head turned. Keep your head turning until you see the jump behind you and lock it there until you have landed. To get a feel for the landing try some switch BS 180s.
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i just got my 3s down this week.
you need to make sure you have front and backside 1's on lock. i found that to be crucial because as soon as i got my front 1, i felt more comfortable with my spins and boosting off side hits.
other than that i found it best to practice 3's off side hits and then move on to jumps
make sure you keep you head turned which ever way your spinning. as soon as you stop turning your head you will open up stop your rotation and proceed to eat shit.

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A good place to practice 3's is off the knuckle of larger jumps, just make sure you aren't snaking anything and are off the side.

It's all mental in terms of getting that set up turn right and timing. You really barely need any rotation to get a 3 if you lock your hips, shoulders together. Most people try to snap too much when learning and then they're out of sync which causes them to stall out and not rotate. Watch the pro's do even 10's and 12's. They really don't wind that much, it's all about releasing the wind right as you're coming off the lips. Except Shaun White and that double mc, he winds the living fuck out of that thing.
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