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post #11 of 44 (permalink) Old 02-05-2012, 10:28 PM
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ride up to one of the other park rats and pay him 5 bucks to go up to your son and say "Hey bro if you close your shoulders youll probably stomp it first try"

Kids tend to listen to their peers and i know i would probably take the advice of a random park rat that i know is a better rider than me over my dads advice any day.
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Wolf your right in that statement as is everyone in what is happening and yep this is the same thread as last time but more of how do I help him as to knowing what he is doing. I do know an instructor. I may ask my boy if he wants me to get him a lesson which would be a legit lesson. I don't want to do it on the sly like others suggest, great idea, but not the way I want to approach it. Could back fire, maybe asking a fellow rider to point out a tip or two but the cash idea I think is to sly. Our hill has some great riders and I know a few from being on the hill a lot. I may ask them to give him some input.

Another angle I just thought of: I know I told him and showed him but maybe he is struggling with the concept of "opening up" or opening the shoulders. He may not totally see/get that point and not want to feel embarrassed or dumb for not knowing it....a thought

Again we have a great relationship, I just can't coach him. Not sure when/where we lost that but we did and I wish we didn't

BA I have enough raging hormones in the house with 2 teenage boys and a tween daughter, not ready for the sex angle, I have enough just keeping them on the right path

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Avoid calling it a lesson

Sounds silly but to a teenager saying "do you want me to get you a freestyle lesson with a good instructor! " will turn him off. However calling it a freestyle clinic and finding him a coach will probably make him more enthusiastic. Many resorts stop calling advanced classes "lessons ". Instead it's a 2hr "park session with one of their coaches" or a steeps clinic with a qualified guide.
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Improve your own skills and then show your kid up at the park while girls are watching.

Make sure to call him "sonny-boy" while you are twisting 360's in the pipe. Tousle his hair after you pull off gnarly tricks and tell him that he's lucky to have an old man who is a bad ass shredder.

If he has trouble with a jump, ask him if he wouldn't be happier riding skis on a green groomer. Then throw up the shocker (or some other gang sign) to reinforce how core his pops is!

Follow these steps and I predict a happy, successful snow vacation.
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Tell him that moguls are the buried bodies of kids who wouldn't listen to their fathers.


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He's super stiff right from the takeoff and it negatively affects him all the way through. Not only is this bad style, it's causing his washouts and he tries to land without actually absorbing any impact in his knees. It's hard to tell from the video, but maybe give him a bit wider stance.

Enough trail and error should fix this if he won't take advice. The little kickers he's hitting don't have nice landings to begin with.

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Get him a hooker and then he'll respect and listen to you often. Or just hire a bigger kid to mock him till he does it right.
Fail safe parenting tips, and they work for almost any situation.
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i wouldnt literally pay some park rat to give my child advice. i was being kind of tongue in cheek about it while getting my point across.
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Maybe approach the topic of progression as a group, instead of individually, and then pursue individual coaching for all 3 of you with separate goals that you can all set yourselves. Chances are if he's as frustrated as you say, he'll pursue and own it.

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Maybe approach the topic of progression as a group, instead of individually, and then pursue individual coaching for all 3 of you with separate goals that you can all set yourselves. Chances are if he's as frustrated as you say, he'll pursue and own it.
I'd like to do a group lesson for all of us but it's just not in the budget. Plus the oldest is still out, sees the Dr on the 20th. We find out if his season is over or he can ride again.

I've talked with a instructor that recommended a park instructor. I'm going to talk with him next opportunity and approach the boy about me getting him a "Park Coach" that sound about right???

I really want to fix this so 1: he doesn't get hurt 2: don't want these bad habits to keep being reinforced 3:he can enjoy it more and can keep progressing

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