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Old 02-06-2012, 01:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Just came back from a 3 day trip to jay peak. great snow even in this shitty season that we're having. my question is... how the hell do you ride glades.. is there some different technique to it? i keep getting thrown around by the bends and the trees. farr to many near death experiences this weekend.

I added a ton of forward lean to my highback on the last day which made a huge difference in terms of control but is there anything else? I can do to improve my glade riding? how can i control my speed without having to stop.

i feel like every time i pick up good speed, i ended up getting thrown by a bend or a tree branch or a rock.
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Old 02-06-2012, 01:59 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Just ride them more often. I've never rode there, so I'm not sure what they look like. Plenty of tree runs here in CO are so steep and tight that you pretty much have to pick your way through them.
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Old 02-06-2012, 02:08 AM   #3 (permalink)
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About the only way you can control speed in some gnarly glades is to literally scruff of speed whenever you can and if you have to, zing around a tree and face up hill some if you need to.

Glades are my favorite stuff to ride and I've bounced off a ton of trees, it happens....

I've also found a lot of fun in making big zig zags and essentially side hilling back and fourth thru the trees to make a sweet tree run last a lot longer. But that's in really tight trees.... More open trees like aspens or something I like to just fly thru those weaving in and out of them.

But ya, it's all about practice.... I can shred trees with the best of them but you get me on a wide open bowl with bottomless powder and I flail around like an idiot and can't make a good looking line to save my life.

It's because I've got a ton of tree riding experience with not insane deep powder (Colorado resort riding)

Oh I've ripped probably a handful of gloves from having to grab onto tree trunks to help me make a tight turn because I was going to fast

But my smile is from ear to ear when I pop out of those trees
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Old 02-06-2012, 02:14 AM   #4 (permalink)
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hmm thanks guys. looks like i need more experience riding glades. i don't get to ride them all that often. i have to admit they were pretty addictive. every time i got out of those trees it felt like quite the accomplishment because i made it out alive lol.
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It's mostly about developing your reflex-to-control abilities. You should be constantly scanning in front of you and picking your next line; visualize what your gonna do in your head rather then reacting when it comes up. To ride trees fast and efficiently you need to be making decisions about your line every 1/2-second a new "frame" comes into view. Right now since it's new your likely uncomfortable having to make split-decisions and commit to them, so instead your bailing out every time. Like anything it's something that just comes with time and practice, once you get over the fear of hitting trees it will all just click.

Once you get it down, it's easily one of the funnest and most intense things to ride. Snow is a big factor too... if you have ice-burms and hard conditions they're hard to ride no matter what. Deep powder also tends to suck since it drastically slows down your turning speed. 4-inches to 2-feet tends to be the best.
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Mentally you need 2 or 3 trees ahead of where you actually are, swallow tail boards make a massive difference in your ability to dodge trees at high speed. Lastly know when to bail as seen in the 2nd vid below!

tree run vids.
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Mentally you need 2 or 3 trees ahead of where you actually are, swallow tail boards make a massive difference in your ability to dodge trees at high speed. Lastly know when to bail as seen in the 2nd vid below!

tree run vids.
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very nice runs!!!! jealous
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Some great advice here. I would add another tactic for riding trees which is very simliar to riding gates. A lot of people tend to wait till they get above the tree to turn this typically causes a person to be late and have to make more gross movements to get the board to swing a round and turn. It also doesn't allow them to focus on the next turn and line of turns they will need to navigate the trees. The next to you are in the trees try to thing about finishing your turn on the downhill side of a tree each time. It should allow you more time to complete turns in the tree and pick your line.

P.S. There will be spots in the trees where turning is not in the cards and picking a straighter line is more appropriate. In general though in a well gladed run and even in sections of gnarly tight helmet branch breaking trees that the above tactic will work.
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I can't offer anything in terms of advice since I'm still new to (and terrible at) glades, but maybe this video of my first glades from Jay Peak last season will help boost your ego:



If I recall, the first glades shown are "Bushwacker" (blue), then I think it was "Buck Woods" (black), and "Half Moon" (blue). The guy in the green pants constantly waiting for us is Mysticfalcon. He's a Jay Peak local and experienced glade rider so maybe he'll chime in here with some tips...
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I ride a lot of tight glades (whenever we get the snow), and I find that you really need to pick your line(look 5-10 seconds ahead), and then commit. Look through the gaps you want, and absorb whatever bumps are underfoot, you'll see the rocks if there is any if you're looking ahead.

Other thing though is keep your nose up in the powder, but that's pretty obvious.

If you're just starting, ride a glade in parts where you're only a couple of trees from a groomer, and you can easily cut out back to the groomer when you pick up to much speed, scrub, and go back in to the woods.
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