Critique my riding (video) - Snowboarding Forum

jyuen · 02-11-2012, 03:20 PM

Just wanted some expert advice on my riding. Here's a short 14 second clip of me riding down the last sort of steep section at mont-tremblant beside the gondola.

Untitled on Vimeo

sorry for the poor quality of the video.. no go pro, just had a friend film from the bottom.

aiidoneus · 02-11-2012, 06:37 PM

Main thing I notice is that you are hunching forward on your heelside. instead try rolling your shoulders back to stack the weight over the heel edge.

jyuen · 02-11-2012, 11:22 PM

cool thanks! got it.

yeah i'm much more comfortable with my toe edge than heel edge.

boardaddicktd · 02-13-2012, 08:36 AM

idk dude i thought it looked pretty good. without studying the hell out of every frame of video, i'd say u look good. points for the gear setup too!

jyuen · 02-13-2012, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowolf

Not so much a critique as a some M.A

Here is what I am seeing in your riding:

Board tilt appears to be the dominant board performance going on. There is a tiny bit of pivot going on that appears to be the result of some pretty rapid extensions at the apex of each turn. The turn shape is very shallow and open ended almost as if you are not so much turning, but rather just doing some alternating heel and toe side speed checks.

Cant really tell what the ankles are doing due to the distance.

Knees and hips are very active and dynamic with a lot of flexion and extension. The main method for unweighting I am seeing is a dramatic up unweight that is almost an actual pop up off of the snow.

There is definitely a lot of folding at the waist which momentarily shifts your center of mass way out over the toe side of your board as you are trying to angulate for the heelside.

The upper body appears fairly quiet with the shoulders more aligned with the board at all times and less with the fall line. Head position appears in good form.

What specifically about your riding do you feel like you might want to change or improve?

thanks snowolf.
few questions.. first of all what's M.A.? lol
if i remember correctly, the turn shape is shallow because i was either trying to go really really fast or i was riding over icy patches, i don't quite remember.

what other methods of unweighting are there? i would like to try new things to improve my all around riding.
is the upper body apearing quiet a good or a bad thing?

I want to improve my all around riding. I learned recently that i'm horrible with glades but I won't really get to work on that at my local resort. I'm much more comfortable with my toe side than heelside. I ride mainly park at my local resort and because I'm more comfortable with my toe side, I have a strong bias towards toeside tricks... i can only do backside 3s (land about 20% of the time..) front side 50/50s, really sloppy front side board slides, i'm more comfortable doing pop backside 3's than frontside and I can really only ride up one side of the half pipe properly. I drop in from my toe side and when i'm coming in on my heels... i lose all my speed and momentum in the transition of the halfpipe.

jyuen · 02-13-2012, 06:25 PM

umm also... what is the difference between carving, skidded turns, dynamic carving and dynamic skidded turns...

lonerider · 02-13-2012, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyuen

umm also... what is the difference between carving, skidded turns, dynamic carving and dynamic skidded turns...

I'm guessing MA stands for "minor adjustments".

Carving is when you boards railing through the snow on edge through a turn and your leave a thin trench in the snow like this (this is an extreme example).

Skidding is when you board edge is skidding across the snow and so the track is wider... something like the image below

I personally take dynamic to mean active in that you joints are continuously bending/unbending through out each turn, someone doing dynamic turns (carved or skidded) tends to have a good rhythm - almost a sort of bounce when linking turn to turn to turn. A static turn is when you are kind of stiff and make one turn.... and then another turns... but you don't move/bend your joint much in the turn and each turn does not follow smoothly into the next turn.

Leo · 02-13-2012, 09:42 PM

Snowolf is going to have instructor level lingo for you.

I just want to add an observation. Seeing you slash the snow at each transition seems to suggest you are forcing your transitions from heel to toe aggressively. Are you purposely doing this to snow slash?

On top of that, your motion isn't fluid so again, it looks like you're intentionally slashing the snow with your transitions. Sabato posted a vid of me cruising in the proto review thread towards the last few pages. I'm not an expert by any means, but I'm pretty fluid in my transitions in that vid. Compare to yours and you'll see what I mean by it looks like you're agressive.

lonerider · 02-13-2012, 09:49 PM

I think video is much more expressive than long explanations in this case. Just saw this video Shiverless posted of himself in a separate thread - http://www.snowboardingforum.com/pho...tml#post482917

He is doing textbook dynamic carved turns:

Hey Snowolf, you should get a buddy to video you and update your instructional videos so you can show the techniques (some people find it easier to imitate someone else's form).

metric · 02-13-2012, 10:27 PM

I think MA stands for motion analysis or something like that.

02-11-2012, 03:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
jyuen -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 397	Critique my riding (video) Just wanted some expert advice on my riding. Here's a short 14 second clip of me riding down the last sort of steep section at mont-tremblant beside the gondola. Untitled on Vimeo sorry for the poor quality of the video.. no go pro, just had a friend film from the bottom. __________________ 2007 Rome Agent 155, 2011 Rome Artifact Rocker 150, 2012 Never Summer Proto CT 152 2011 Union Contacts, 2012 Flux SF45, 2008 Rome 390's (Retired) 2011 Zoom Kaiju, 2007 Thirtytwo Prospects (Retired)

02-11-2012, 11:22 PM	#3 (permalink)
jyuen -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 397	cool thanks! got it. yeah i'm much more comfortable with my toe edge than heel edge. __________________ 2007 Rome Agent 155, 2011 Rome Artifact Rocker 150, 2012 Never Summer Proto CT 152 2011 Union Contacts, 2012 Flux SF45, 2008 Rome 390's (Retired) 2011 Zoom Kaiju, 2007 Thirtytwo Prospects (Retired)

02-13-2012, 08:36 AM	#4 (permalink)
boardaddicktd Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: colorado Posts: 323	idk dude i thought it looked pretty good. without studying the hell out of every frame of video, i'd say u look good. points for the gear setup too! __________________ BOARDADDICKTD

02-13-2012, 06:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
jyuen -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 397	umm also... what is the difference between carving, skidded turns, dynamic carving and dynamic skidded turns... __________________ 2007 Rome Agent 155, 2011 Rome Artifact Rocker 150, 2012 Never Summer Proto CT 152 2011 Union Contacts, 2012 Flux SF45, 2008 Rome 390's (Retired) 2011 Zoom Kaiju, 2007 Thirtytwo Prospects (Retired)

02-13-2012, 09:42 PM	#8 (permalink)
Leo -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Detroit Area Posts: 6,212	Snowolf is going to have instructor level lingo for you. I just want to add an observation. Seeing you slash the snow at each transition seems to suggest you are forcing your transitions from heel to toe aggressively. Are you purposely doing this to snow slash? On top of that, your motion isn't fluid so again, it looks like you're intentionally slashing the snow with your transitions. Sabato posted a vid of me cruising in the proto review thread towards the last few pages. I'm not an expert by any means, but I'm pretty fluid in my transitions in that vid. Compare to yours and you'll see what I mean by it looks like you're agressive. __________________ www.aGNARchy.com Reviews and David Z's rants

02-11-2012, 06:37 PM	#2 (permalink)
aiidoneus -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 333	Main thing I notice is that you are hunching forward on your heelside. instead try rolling your shoulders back to stack the weight over the heel edge.

02-13-2012, 09:49 PM	#9 (permalink)
lonerider Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Mountain View, CA Posts: 947	I think video is much more expressive than long explanations in this case. Just saw this video Shiverless posted of himself in a separate thread - http://www.snowboardingforum.com/pho...tml#post482917 He is doing textbook dynamic carved turns: Hey Snowolf, you should get a buddy to video you and update your instructional videos so you can show the techniques (some people find it easier to imitate someone else's form). Last edited by lonerider; 02-13-2012 at 09:56 PM.

02-13-2012, 10:27 PM	#10 (permalink)
metric Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Minneapolis / Switzerland Posts: 171	I think MA stands for motion analysis or something like that.

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