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Old 02-16-2012, 04:13 PM   #11 (permalink)
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got it thanks,

couple other questions: i read that my toe and heel turns should be initiated and done with a twist like a swivel of the knee and and foot-so heel it would be twist out, toe i assume it's a twist inward, rather than simply rocking from heel to toe, is that correct?

secondly, should i be extending my legs to pop out of turns to relieve the pressure on the board during the middle and end of my turn? before initiating the next turn, i think i do it anyway, but i never really consciously thought about it.

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yes...heelside swing the leading knee toward the nose and for toeside bend or point/drive the leading knee toward the imaginary center of the turn.

Secondly, you are transitioning between turns...its not really popping out of turns (yes you do this at a more advance level of riding) but you are merely lowering/sinking in your knees to initiate the turn, you are at the lowest at the middle of the turn and then you rise up to complete the turn...(thus you are standing tall, with weight on the nose to get the nose of the board to drop back in to the fall line) and then you drop/lower down to initiate for the next turn.
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yes...heelside swing the leading knee toward the nose and for toeside bend or point/drive the leading knee toward the imaginary center of the turn.

Secondly, you are transitioning between turns...its not really popping out of turns (yes you do this at a more advance level of riding) but you are merely lowering/sinking in your knees to initiate the turn, you are at the lowest at the middle of the turn and then you rise up to complete the turn...(thus you are standing tall, with weight on the nose to get the nose of the board to drop back in to the fall line) and then you drop/lower down to initiate for the next turn.
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Also besides rising and lowering, you are moving weight, i.e., shifting your hips sidways...fore and aft...nose to tail. Beginning/initiating the turn you are on the nose, middle of the turn you are at the middle of the board and lowered and at the compleation of the turn you are on the tail...abit in the back seat.

So the at the end of the turn, you shift your hips sidways to the nose...to weight the nose to get the nose to drop into the fall line....gain some speed... then initiate the turn.
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(@wrath and nefarious: not the OP here, but I also thank you!)
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Old 02-17-2012, 11:23 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Just one more piece: As you are going heelside, raise and open your leading shoulder...and going toeside, drop and close your leading shoulder...the leading shoulder is going the same direction as your leading knee. This helps to keep your body stacked and aligned, i.e., the leading ankle, knee, hip and shoulder going in the same direction.

BTW nobody has mentioned arms and hands...so what to do? Ya don't need them and if they are waving around they can be a hindrance. So either keep them dropped and relaxed by your thighs, or keep them gently clasped in front or back, or hold them like a little bunny rabbit standing on its hind legs or like a tyrannosaurus rex up by your chest but keep the elbows glued to your ribs.

So all the little things; first isolate and practice each movement (ya don't even need to be on the board...just get your body familiar with the movement). Then its putting it all together with coordination, timing and rhythm. Once you get that done you can vary the intensity and degree to make any number of tight or loose/big turns and they will be smooth, efficient, subtle, quick and powerful.
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BTW nobody has mentioned arms and hands...so what to do? Ya don't need them and if they are waving around they can be a hindrance. So either keep them dropped and relaxed by your thighs, or keep them gently clasped in front or back, or hold them like a little bunny rabbit standing on its hind legs or like a tyrannosaurus rex up by your chest but keep the elbows glued to your ribs.
I also found that grabbing the edge of my jacket helped me resist the temptation to float out my trailing arm. (But I admit, you gotta watch out and make sure that the elbow doesn't end up sticking out instead.)

Was it here that I heard about the "tuck a snowball between your arms at your side and your hips" trick? I told our friend's 10 year-old to try that. If he makes it to the end of the run with the snowball, he rewards himself by chucking it at us or his sister
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[QUOTE=wrathfuldeity;484479]Just one more piece: As you are going heelside, raise and open your leading shoulder...and going heelside, drop and close your leading shoulder...the leading shoulder is going the same direction as your leading knee. This helps to keep your body stacked and aligned, i.e., the leading ankle, knee, hip and shoulder going in the same direction.
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I'm confused...How does raising and lowering your shoulder help with keeping your body stacked and aligned?
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Its raising and lowering your shoulder with abit of twist of the leading shoulder for anticipatory rotation...idk if that is a correct by Snowolf's opinion...but in my feeble mind that's how it works.
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Its raising and lowering your shoulder with abit of twist of the leading shoulder for anticipatory rotation...idk if that is a correct by Snowolf's opinion...but in my feeble mind that's how it works.
Thanks again for the info, I went boarding yesterday, and hit a learning curve, I was able to easily do skidded turns down all the blues without problem. I started trying to work on my dynamic skidded turns and also go down the hill with faster speed and very narrow heel toe transition but sometimes i find myself catching an edge while going down at the faster speed, overall a really great day of clean runs.
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