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Old 02-23-2012, 02:09 AM   #11 (permalink)
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that last video is sick. is there anything else that would help on pow days. like i dont know much about edges. i have a megnatraction board.
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Old 02-23-2012, 02:15 AM   #12 (permalink)
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It will help, but mostly you just need to learn how to ride powder. I've ridden my 153 Lib T.Rice (centered or 0.5 inch back, I forgot) on a 25-40cm pow day on Whistler's bowls and did fine, granted a bit of back leg work.
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Old 02-23-2012, 02:23 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Them guys are rocking pure pow boards, swallowtail, shovel nose, massive setback and probably massive taper too.
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Old 02-23-2012, 02:27 AM   #14 (permalink)
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also the speed they are carrying has a lot to do with how well the are floating too.
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Old 02-23-2012, 02:36 AM   #15 (permalink)
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At 225# on a 172 Skunk Ape, you shouldn't be having any issues. Set the bindings back a little bit and make an effort to keep that nose up.
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Old 02-23-2012, 04:39 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by AIRider View Post
interesting…. I'm 225lbs, and I find myself sinking as well …

look at the tip of that board, always up … hmmmm might have to buy another board …

how are shallow tails, on groomers, and non pow conditions… obviously you cant ride switch…
A couple of things to notice how he is generally pointing it and just surfing along...no slashes nor turns...just kind of rocking the edges and staying on the tail, the trees generally have more space and lower angle slope than Baker's; also the pow looks to be fluffier than we usually get.

As for your size on a 172 lib...should not be a problem to float, set bindings back...otherwise part is just technique of surfing...keeping your speed up and waiting for the turn to come instead of making it happen. In some ways Baker is a technical hill, i.e., steep, narrow, compact and lots of terrain to pay attention to...so you learn to aggressively turn....to be on the nose...turning for speed control and etc. There are no really big wide areas to just surf along. Thus its kind of a different thing...learning to surf for seemingly short 5-10 seconds blasts. A couple good things are often the snow is wet and heavy...so its more cream cheese surfing...which is great for about the first hour before it gets mobbed...then its chopped crap to ride. Or fluffy and it still gets mobbed but holds up better. The other thing is steep lines are good but you just have to balls up and point it. Part of the difficulties at Baker often visability is a issue, the steeps are steep and pointing it even in the deep fluff or cream cheese...results in hauling ass for a few seconds then shutting it down to negotiate some terrain or go flying off of some natty, stomping it and keep going...and the wide open bowls on gunners would be perfect but are often closed when there is lots of fluff and then you have the groomed canyon which is not great on a big poo board...while the less angled stuff seems a bit too slow to float. So under chair 8, austins, gunners, above the chute, stickies and north to peas can be good places to open it up and point it on some deep fresh before it gets mobbed out.

In summary you got a fine poo board, speed is your friend...wait and build speed to make turns...And pick your lines wisely...and if you are going to stop, stop on the very steep so you can get going again.

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Old 02-24-2012, 11:00 AM   #17 (permalink)
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looks like these guys are riding with positive angles on their bindings… that would be weird to get used to.
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Old 02-24-2012, 11:11 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Your likely just not that used to powder yet. Are you riding sufficiently steep terrain, or stuff that has a mellower pitch? Steeper the better in powder, you want as much speed as possible, especially when the powder is deep.

Does the Skunk Ape have rocker? That really helps.
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Old 02-24-2012, 11:47 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Listen to Wrath. He speaks truth. Baker can be a bitch when it's crazy deep. That board should be plenty of board for pow surfing. Just keep at it and you'll figure it out.
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Old 03-04-2012, 01:56 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Hi guys, me again … So last week was another epic day at baker, but this time I moved my bindings all the way to the back, and you guys were right… Made a world of difference…

here's how it all looked .. no more getting stuck

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