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post #11 of 19 (permalink) Old 03-05-2012, 08:24 AM
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Yeah, I see that in the video as well. To me, it looks like they are in fact using an up unweight at edge change as well. CASI and AASI have some very different approaches and this may be one of them. Up unweighting is not "wrong". it is just another way to get the job done. AASI`s position is that on steeper terrain, an up unweight tends to pop you too hard off of the side of the slop in a fully extended position while a down unweight releases the edge but allows you to move closer to the surface while doing it.

A down unweight is just a brisk dropping of the upper body down toward the board. This is usually done from a mid flexed position not full flex so in reality, it is a subtle movement. The idea here is in a cross under turn, your legs reach maximum extension as the board travels through the apex of the turn and is at its farthest point from you. In order to maintain a quiet upper body, you have to retract the legs as the board now travels back toward you.

As the board passes just under you, a brisk drop or sucking up of the legs, momentarily will release the edge hold by making the board nearly weightless for an instant. At this moment, the rider instantly tilts the board onto its opposite edge, and then extends through the next turn.

Sometimes this movement creates a slight drop then a noticeable rise of the upper body that looks just like an up unweight. What people generally are seeing is the noticeable upward pop as the rider resets the edge.

I am going to video some extreme examples of this down unweight move and an up unweight in the very near future....
It's a bit more clear now, thanks
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Don't worry this is a really confusing concept at first and it took me forever to get the timing down. A great drill to start really getting a feel for this is to do leapers only instead of popping up off of the snow, start from an extended position and just drop down low really really fast. You can start by just standing on a flat spot and from a tall position, just totally let your legs go noodle so that you feel like you are dropping straight down. When you do this fast enough, there is a brief second when the board lifts up off of the snow as you are dropping toward it. Once you do this a few times, do it while in motion, the add an edge change to it....
I will try it for sure next time i go boarding. I just tried doing it without a board in my living room and if i drop fast enough my feet lift up off the ground for a brief second, i dont know if this is the feeling you are describing. Also, using a down or up unweight motion in order to change edge, is it a preference that you choose and stick with it or people do both? And a last question about finding your flexed and extended position using the 1-10 scale. When you flex down to find your 10, i guess you mean without raising the heels? And is your 1 with completely stretched knees? Thanks
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Thanks SOOOO much for all the feedback.. It looks like th weather is breaking, so we're planning a trip for tomorrow to Sugar Mt. Ill keep all this in mind, and work on it tomorrow!... if i get a chance, towards the end of the day, after I've had some time to work on these points, I'll try to catch a video and get it up and see if I have made any improvements....Check Ya'll then!! Thanks again guys!!
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He does look little stiff and could use little more flex on his legs, but is it because he is riding on very flat run?
On the video it was hard to tell what kind of run it was. The terrain looks very flat and some part of it looks like transition run. I don't ride transitions runs with flex on my knees (some but barely any). Is this you pushing yourself or are you leisurely riding? You should post something where you are pushing yourself (your weakness would be more noticeable)
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