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Alright, just got back from Cypress Mountain near Vancouver BC.

Here is what I tried and the results:
1) Developed a feel for a 60-40 weight distribution on flat ground in order to try to reproduce it on the slope.
2) Grabbed my pants at the front knee while on the slope. This helped a lot in keeping my weight centered or forward (but I still leaned backwards on a steeper green; more on that later)
3) Did toe-side falling leaves as Snowolf suggested on the top (steeper) part of the run. I definitely need more time on the toe-edge. Feet start to burn very quickly.
4) On the middle of the run I did heel-side garlands
5) On the lower part of the run, I linked turns. After two goes like this, I was able to link turns from the top of the run!

After the lunch break, my fiance and I went on a steeper green run. I had some challenges here. The run is very narrow (Panorama @ Cypress) so I had difficulty making toeside turns because I was afraid of falling off the side of the run! I also had more trouble keeping my weight forward/centered because the is steeper than the "Easy Rider" run I was doing before. Also, Panorama was much icier due to the higher traffic.

Plan of action: Next week I'll be back on Easy Rider for one run because I believe the challenge on Panorama should make Easy Rider a confident run for me, allowing me to reinforce my learning. After that, I'll go back on Panorama and try to get used to the increased steepness and speed.
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Additional questions/sticking points: I noticed that my toe edge takes longer/more pressure to engage than my heel edge. My theories are one or more of the following.

1) Either my weight is still not forward enough. On the easier green, I don't think this was the case today
2) Or I'm not bending the front knee enough/not rotating it inwards enough
3) Or maybe there's something wrong with the edging on my board? My board is five years old now but I've hardly ridden it so I doubt this is the case but I've also not taken good care of it and some of the metal on the edge is slightly rusted.
4) I find it near impossible to make a toe-side turn on hard-packed snow that is almost ice; the edge is not able to grab hold and then I freak out thatI'm not turning, end up leaning too much to try to make the board turn, and then fall.

I tried the cowboy technique that Snowolf suggested on some turns but haven't integrated it in fully yet.

What do you guys think?
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Additional questions/sticking points: I noticed that my toe edge takes longer/more pressure to engage than my heel edge. My theories are one or more of the following.

1) Either my weight is still not forward enough. On the easier green, I don't think this was the case today
2) Or I'm not bending the front knee enough/not rotating it inwards enough
3) Or maybe there's something wrong with the edging on my board? My board is five years old now but I've hardly ridden it so I doubt this is the case but I've also not taken good care of it and some of the metal on the edge is slightly rusted.
4) I find it near impossible to make a toe-side turn on hard-packed snow that is almost ice; the edge is not able to grab hold and then I freak out thatI'm not turning, end up leaning too much to try to make the board turn, and then fall.

I tried the cowboy technique that Snowolf suggested on some turns but haven't integrated it in fully yet.

What do you guys think?
Are your boots centered on the board? Are your boots tight? Do you have a ton of heel lift? You mentioned foot burn earlier. That happens to me when my boots are not tight and I have heel lift. Just a few things to check out. It also might be a balance issue -
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Additional questions/sticking points: I noticed that my toe edge takes longer/more pressure to engage than my heel edge. My theories are one or more of the following.

1) Either my weight is still not forward enough. On the easier green, I don't think this was the case today
2) Or I'm not bending the front knee enough/not rotating it inwards enough
3) Or maybe there's something wrong with the edging on my board? My board is five years old now but I've hardly ridden it so I doubt this is the case but I've also not taken good care of it and some of the metal on the edge is slightly rusted.
4) I find it near impossible to make a toe-side turn on hard-packed snow that is almost ice; the edge is not able to grab hold and then I freak out thatI'm not turning, end up leaning too much to try to make the board turn, and then fall.

I tried the cowboy technique that Snowolf suggested on some turns but haven't integrated it in fully yet.

What do you guys think?
Also rotate your head and leading shoulder...alot of newbs want to twist/counter-rotate around and look down the hill. On and going toeside LOOK UP the hill to rotate your shoulder and head.


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Are your boots centered on the board? Are your boots tight? Do you have a ton of heel lift? You mentioned foot burn earlier. That happens to me when my boots are not tight and I have heel lift. Just a few things to check out. It also might be a balance issue -
I think the boots are centered. I've had problems with the boots being loose before (twisted an ankle that way once) so I try to make them as tight as possible. I have one of those "easy-lace" boot mechanisms that you pull the laces through these locking devices. I yank the laces as hard as I can and retighten every few runs.

I sometimes get a bit of heel lift, which prompts me to retighten.
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Also rotate your head and leading shoulder...alot of newbs want to twist/counter-rotate around and look down the hill. On and going toeside LOOK UP the hill to rotate your shoulder and head.
I'm rotating the head, but perhaps not the shoulder. I know I'm supposed to do a slight rotation of the shoulder but I'm fearful of getting into the habit of steering with the shoulders so perhaps I underdo the rotation. I'll try that next weekend
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I think the boots are centered. I've had problems with the boots being loose before (twisted an ankle that way once) so I try to make them as tight as possible. I have one of those "easy-lace" boot mechanisms that you pull the laces through these locking devices. I yank the laces as hard as I can and retighten every few runs.

I sometimes get a bit of heel lift, which prompts me to retighten.
Hmmm, it sounds like your boots might be too big for you. This a pretty common when buying boots, as we tend to buy for comfort. Your longest toe should be just grazing the front of the boot (barely) when brand new and standing up. There shouldn't be much heel lift even with the laces only moderately tight.

Having to retighten every few runs is a bad sign. If I tighten my laces too much my feet will hurt because it's actually cutting off the circulation!

FWIW I wear an 8.5 shoe but I'm in 7.5 boots now and they feel fantastic. I had 9s before and thought they fit well until I tried on something that ACTUALLY fit...
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I'm rotating the head, but perhaps not the shoulder. I know I'm supposed to do a slight rotation of the shoulder but I'm fearful of getting into the habit of steering with the shoulders so perhaps I underdo the rotation. I'll try that next weekend

Don't worry about you shoulder steering...hopefully you are already driving with your knee, i.e., torsional twisting. So you just need to get your whole body doing the same thing...starting from the bottom up...knee, hip and shoulder. Btw I still tend to counter rotate my shoulder and tend to look down hill and this past weekend when too tired to bomb; did a few black runs practicing looking back up hill to really engage the toeside to slow down and really control my speed instead of doing open-s bombs.


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