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Old 04-02-2012, 05:50 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Alright, just got back from Cypress Mountain near Vancouver BC.

Here is what I tried and the results:
1) Developed a feel for a 60-40 weight distribution on flat ground in order to try to reproduce it on the slope.
2) Grabbed my pants at the front knee while on the slope. This helped a lot in keeping my weight centered or forward (but I still leaned backwards on a steeper green; more on that later)
3) Did toe-side falling leaves as Snowolf suggested on the top (steeper) part of the run. I definitely need more time on the toe-edge. Feet start to burn very quickly.
4) On the middle of the run I did heel-side garlands
5) On the lower part of the run, I linked turns. After two goes like this, I was able to link turns from the top of the run!

After the lunch break, my fiance and I went on a steeper green run. I had some challenges here. The run is very narrow (Panorama @ Cypress) so I had difficulty making toeside turns because I was afraid of falling off the side of the run! I also had more trouble keeping my weight forward/centered because the is steeper than the "Easy Rider" run I was doing before. Also, Panorama was much icier due to the higher traffic.

Plan of action: Next week I'll be back on Easy Rider for one run because I believe the challenge on Panorama should make Easy Rider a confident run for me, allowing me to reinforce my learning. After that, I'll go back on Panorama and try to get used to the increased steepness and speed.
Perhaps you're still mentally freaking out about the idea of leaning down towards the base of the hill? It's fairly normal at first, but it's something you'll need to psych yourself out of. I was hoping the tip I gave you about holding your pants/knee while riding would help keep you from thinking about it, so you could focus on your progression & just get comfortable with the position. When you notice yourself getting in the backseat while holding your pants, try grabbing a little further down your leg, or even over your knee cap if needed.

Consider incorporating calf raises into your workout to strengthen them - just give yourself a few days between doing them and riding or your calves will be killing you - especially if you're not used to this exercise. If your heel is lifting in your boots, consider putting j-bars in to hold your heel in place. If your boots are way too big, consider buying another pair in the right size.

That's awesome that you're linking turns down the whole run!!! I'd suggest working on your toe side falling leaf to strengthen that ability & build more confidence in your toe side. If you're having issues turning toe side or holding the leaf toe side, you may want to look up the mountain, as it should cause you to naturally turn a little easier (this should be done as you start to turn toe-side to help complete the turn).

Now that you're successfully linking turns from the top of the run to the bottom, I suggest continuing to do so & consider an easier blue run to try linking turns on. Successful or not here, go back to a green you feel comfortable on & practice some more. When you feel comfortable after a few runs, consider trying an easier blue again, the same or another.

Congrats on the progress so far! Now you just need to practice as much as you can to develop some muscle memory for the rest of this season & the start of next


As far as steering with your shoulder...riding with open shoulders is a really bad habit. Consider steering with your foot & knee. It will hopefully prevent you from developing some bad riding habits that will be difficult to break later down the line

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Old 04-02-2012, 05:57 PM   #52 (permalink)
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your boots might be too big for you.
I was hoping this was not the case, but I'll go to a proper snowboarding store after work today to see what a proper fit feels like. I bought my boots at a snowboarding/skiiing convention where prices were cheap but there was very little attention to make sure stuff fit properly.
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Old 04-02-2012, 06:02 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Perhaps you're still mentally freaking out about the idea of leaning down towards the base of the hill?
On the steeper green, yes.

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I was hoping the tip I gave you about holding your pants/knee while riding would help keep you from thinking about it, so you could focus on your progression & just get comfortable with the position. When you notice yourself getting in the backseat while holding your pants, try grabbing a little further down your leg, or even over your knee cap if needed.
Yes, this helped a lot! I'll try holding lower. One thing I noticed was that toe-side, I tended to bend over at the waist a lot, rather than keeping my torso upright and just flexing the knees and ankles. I need to watch that.

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Consider incorporating calf raises into your workout to strengthen them
Already doing them last few weeks

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That's awesome that you're linking turns down the whole run!!!
Thanks! To be fair though, it was the easiest possible green run at that mountain. There are other greens there that are still challenging for me, so can't move to the blues just yet.
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Thanks! To be fair though, it was the easiest possible green run at that mountain. There are other greens there that are still challenging for me, so can't move to the blues just yet.
Then just try for steeper or harder greens instead & work up to blues once those become a little easier & more comfortable. Being in the backseat is a mental game that you'll have to work on. You won't fall over the front of the board & you won't pick up excess speed by having proper form.

On the toe side turns, work on keeping your torso straight & bending your knees more.

Glad the tips have helped so far!
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Same thign happened for me when i started riding two months ago. I got some help at camp while i was riding with the guest pro. He told me to keep my knees bent so when you hit bumps you wont bounce out of control and to keep your shoulders even with your board/to the direction your going. If your doign s turns and stuff make sure you kick your back leg out and keep your edge that your not on high to asure you don't catch an edge. idk if this will help but i can succsefully go down black runs after two months of riding. Also riding with people alot better than you helps alot because it urges you to keep up therefore expanding your tolorence for high speeds.
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