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Old 04-09-2012, 01:34 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I take it none of you have ever visited Los Angeles? Being self centered and self absorbed is not just tolerated it's celebrated....sigh
Lived in SoCal for 11 of the 20 I was in CA. (Last 9 were up north in Humboldt Co. I could just KICK myself that I didn't discover Snowboarding while I lived so close to some great riding!!! ) ...And I was living in the San Clemente, Laguna, Newport Beach areas,.. Believe me,.. I KNOW selfish & self absorbed!!!

Vicki, You Do seem to attract more than your share of those kind of "A" Holes from the clips I've seen! Maybe it's time to invest in some elbow pads and as mixie was alluding to,.. "Check" the S#$% out of one or two of them!!! Word might get out!!! (Just kidding,.. Don't want to advocate deliberate violence!! {..much})
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Old 04-09-2012, 01:36 PM   #12 (permalink)
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No wonder I've never seen chair 5 running. I only ride weekdays and they keep limited chairs running, I've never been on chair 7 or 10 as they only run those on weekends. Ive had them stop spinning 3 in the middle of the day and had to hike out. I can't remember how the lift ramp on 3 is? I do know that it's a trickier one to get on with the stupid plastic mat and it's super slow anyway. Maybe with your new board it will be better to exit? Ego trip area is best avoided anyway.

The Wall stays icy until later in the day. If you're wrapping up by noon that might be why your husband is having a problem with it. It gets softer later in the day, sometimes. At least it's short, you don't have very fall to fall I'm actually impressed he fell twice on The Wall. That's one of those if you fall you're going right to the bottom with everyone on the lift watching!
Yes, he went back after lunch - around 1:00 and he just wasn't use to how steep it is and since then he has increased his forward lean but hasn't been back. Yes, when he fell he said he slid about halfway down and then finally figured out how to dig his board in and he pushed and stood right up only to fall on the next turn. And to think he went back and tried that 3 more times! lol

We've ordered him a new board like my Rossi Diva Magtek and think it may work better on the Wall for next year - we shall see! lol

I like Ego Trip - the bottom on it is a diamond, but I just HATE that chairlift exit. The exits I hate don't really have a flat area for you to rest your board on and stand up - they all just drop off the minute the chair lift is there and I need time to adjust before zipping down the drop off. Skis - I had no problem, but on the snowboard I just have problems with those chairlifts that launch you down the exit right away. I stress the whole ride up on the chairlift about falling - and those lifts are slow! lol So lot's of built up stress only to go 3 minutes down the mountain to be stressed all over again with the chairlift!

I like the blue runs on the left of the mountain - but again, hate those chairlift exits!!!

But with this newer board it may be different - I will try again next year and see how it goes.
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You ever try strapping in on those kind of lift exits? It helps some.....
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Yes, he went back after lunch - around 1:00 and he just wasn't use to how steep it is and since then he has increased his forward lean but hasn't been back. Yes, when he fell he said he slid about halfway down and then finally figured out how to dig his board in and he pushed and stood right up only to fall on the next turn. And to think he went back and tried that 3 more times! lol

We've ordered him a new board like my Rossi Diva Magtek and think it may work better on the Wall for next year - we shall see! lol

I like Ego Trip - the bottom on it is a diamond, but I just HATE that chairlift exit. The exits I hate don't really have a flat area for you to rest your board on and stand up - they all just drop off the minute the chair lift is there and I need time to adjust before zipping down the drop off. Skis - I had no problem, but on the snowboard I just have problems with those chairlifts that launch you down the exit right away. I stress the whole ride up on the chairlift about falling - and those lifts are slow! lol So lot's of built up stress only to go 3 minutes down the mountain to be stressed all over again with the chairlift!

I like the blue runs on the left of the mountain - but again, hate those chairlift exits!!!

But with this newer board it may be different - I will try again next year and see how it goes.

Im like your husband. I will keep trying something until I just hurt too much to keep going. Then I go have a drink or two and try again I think getting him a board with magnetraction will help him lots. I'm amazed at how well it works, or perhaps it was just my old board was that bad.

Getting off the lifts is 99% mental. If you tell yourself you are going to fall...you're going to fall. So stop that stressing stuff, it's not gonna help you. Visualize yourself gliding right off that thing. Tell yourself "I am gonna get off this chair and just riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide on down"

I'm short, not even 5 foot tall and when I ride a quad with skiers I always wait for them to unload first. So lifts that have steep ramps like that I often have to drop off the chair, my board won't even touch the snow if my ass is still on the chair. Just pretend that it's flat and hold on the to chair when you stand up to steady yourself. When you feel like you're balanced let go of the chair. Just like riding, weight forward.

Also, play with where you keep your unstrapped foot. I've found it's much easier to steer if I put my back food in the middle of the bindings. On my old cambered board it was better with the right foot pressed against back binding.
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Went riding with Handscreate today and now I have a new knee pain - the pain from doing blues and diamonds over and over! All that bending is a new pain now! lol

I know sometimes I am still slidding, but it seems way better than what I was doing before. Any comments???? Next year I want to work on trying to not open my left shoulder on toeside turns and try not to make so many turns on the blue runs. I've been trying to find a board where I feel confident to excel on and now try to fix my problem areas and I think I finally found the perfect board! (for now! lol)

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I wasn't trying to cause you pain, I just really thought pushing you to ride some steeper terrain would force you (in the instructing sense) up on your edges more & get to really dig into your turns, hopefully getting you to bend your knees a little more thru turns - which I started to notice you did do towards the end of our hour together as we went down that last run (7 down I think?)

It was great meeting you & G. D & I loved your costumes! So glad she spotted you 2 in the lift line.


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Well done Vicki!

Looks like spending some time with Handscreate helped you a lot. We can talk or type for hours but nothing beats one on one coaching...

It totally makes sense to me with regard to the change in boards. Many people find the rocker between the feet profile a bit too squirrely for their liking and on those firm groomers, I also enjoy both my full camber deck and my Rossi Angus profile like your new board. In addition, a directional board will always handle cruising like this a little better than a twin. Once you get a little better and gain more confidence however, you will like the playful nature of that Ollie Pop, especially in powder or good soft corn snow. For now, I think that Rossi is ideal for your riding style.

As for your stance angles, this also makes total sense. I am riding with my angles at 15/-18 partly because it makes my knees feel better and also because I have a natural twist in my legs or hips. Not sure where or why, but I definitely have a slight left rotation in my hips (something AASI can`t quite seem to understand). So definitely ride what is most comfortable to you. I might suggest trying to widen your stance just a tad now that you have discovered this. Your stance is a bit narrow, and if you can widen it a little without causing pain, it can really help with balance and stability.

I really liked on your blue and black run that we can see the bottom of your board.... This means you are really starting to use your edges more and transitioning to a more carved technique. The progression you have made this year is really impressive.


Some goals for next year to improve even more:

Turn your head when making turns from toe to heel and heel to toe. Currently, I do not see you turning your head much. This is is especially effective for the toe to heel transition. Looking over your front shoulder to spot the place you want to turn to really sets your body up well to make this turn (it also helps you spot rude, inconsiderate skiers who think they they need to pass as close as possible to you).

We will work on your unweighting technique. If you watch closely, you are doing an up unweight to switch edges. This works okay, but a down unweight is better for carving. If you look closely, you will see that you hop up slightly, then switch to the new edge and settle back to your neutral position. Ideally, you will find doing the opposite will feel better and also really help you power through your carve better.

To do this, drop down lower to change edges, then gradually rise up through the turn. This rising through the turn actually will help you power through the turn and maintain edge hold better on those icy patches.

You already caught this, but yes, work on closing that front shoulder a bit to help you with your toe side turns and watch the back hand. While "throwing" your shoulder into each turn is not an ideal way to snowboard, positioning them in the direction of the turn adds a little extra rotational force to help add power to your turn.

We will talk more about starting to use fore-aft movements next year to also help you power through the carves better and make riding steeper terrain a piece of cake.

Greta job and like I said, your progress this season is awesome. Good job. I am still working on some ideas we have discussed via PM and will get in touch with you soon.
Thanks Snowolf, I tried to give Vicki as much input as I could in the little time we had together. Time flies when you're having fun! I also suggested she widen her stance a little more for better control, etc, but we discussed her knee pain & I think she needs to look at some Burton or Forum bindings with Auto Cant technology as opposed to a binding with a set canted footbed to help support her knees in the widened stance.

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Vicki, I love seeing your videos. I learned to ride at Snow Summit on the same runs. It's a bit of a drive for me, so I don't go there much anymore. Next season I'd be happy to ride up hill and run interference for you, I have no problem body checking an out of control skier

Also, which black run is that in the video? it looks like you were on miracle mile and rode that back down to the bottom of the hill? Do you ever ride chair 5 and 6? It's a little steeper over there but in my experience it's better as far as avoiding people. It's all blue and black but nothing you couldn't handle. They don't always spin those chairs but there is a traverse across the top. Might not be possible this late in the year
I somehow attracted most of the d-bags when I rode with her, haha. I think she's a magnet for them in all honesty. It must be that positive personality that attracts them...

We did traverse across to the left side of the mountain for a couple runs & even though Vicki was a little nervous about riding the cat track across, she did a fantastic job of handling it. I love that side of the mountain so much, even if it is just a 3 min or so ride to the lift.

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Also, which black run is that in the video? it looks like you were on miracle mile and rode that back down to the bottom of the hill? Do you ever ride chair 5 and 6? It's a little steeper over there but in my experience it's better as far as avoiding people. It's all blue and black but nothing you couldn't handle. They don't always spin those chairs but there is a traverse across the top. Might not be possible this late in the year QUOTE]

Hi Mixie - the blue run in the video is the bottom of Miracle Mile and the Easy Black Run is the Diamond Section in the middle of Miracle Mile - where you can take a blue run to the left or take the black run on the right - this is the right which is the black run.

Chair 5 hasn't worked in 2 years I believe. At least they never had it working this whole year and we've been up there every weekend. Chair 6 is for the harder Diamond and Double Diamond runs - not willing to do those yet! My husband tried the Wall 4 times two weeks ago and fell every time. One time he even fell twice! lol

I have major problems with getting off the lifts on Chair 3 (Ego Trip run) and Chair 10 (Perfect Pitches run) I fall everytime so that it makes it no fun to do those runs anymore. I CAN do okay on Chair 7 (7-down run) but it is such a short run to have to deal with that chairlift stress!

So I start off on Summit Run in the morning to warm up until all the crazy people show up. Then we go over to Miracle Mile and then we head over and take Log Chute all the way down. The end of that is a Diamond also so I get my diamond practice from the middle of Miracle Mile and the end of Log Chute. By noon this old body has had it and has to save something for the next day as we board both Saturday and Sundays every weekend up there!
D & I rode the wall twice & I ate it at least twice, haha. Really I just washed out in a toe side & heel side turn, which resulted in me sliding on my ass for about 15ft until I could get a good dig into the snow. I feel bad for whatever skier hit that massive speed bump I created in the middle of it. D had a good laugh at my attempt to go down it with some speed the 1st time & watching me slide on my ass. The toe side wash out was pretty minimal & I was able to recover relatively quickly, thankfully.
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No wonder I've never seen chair 5 running. I only ride weekdays and they keep limited chairs running, I've never been on chair 7 or 10 as they only run those on weekends. Ive had them stop spinning 3 in the middle of the day and had to hike out. I can't remember how the lift ramp on 3 is? I do know that it's a trickier one to get on with the stupid plastic mat and it's super slow anyway. Maybe with your new board it will be better to exit? Ego trip area is best avoided anyway.


The Wall stays icy until later in the day. If you're wrapping up by noon that might be why your husband is having a problem with it. It gets softer later in the day, sometimes. At least it's short, you don't have very fall to fall I'm actually impressed he fell twice on The Wall. That's one of those if you fall you're going right to the bottom with everyone on the lift watching!
They run 7 during the week too, at least now they do. You may have caught it on an off day...? Yeah, I'll only attempt The Wall when it's on the softer side. When it's icy I don't bother, it's just too damn scary for me when it's rock hard

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Yes, he went back after lunch - around 1:00 and he just wasn't use to how steep it is and since then he has increased his forward lean but hasn't been back. Yes, when he fell he said he slid about halfway down and then finally figured out how to dig his board in and he pushed and stood right up only to fall on the next turn. And to think he went back and tried that 3 more times! lol

We've ordered him a new board like my Rossi Diva Magtek and think it may work better on the Wall for next year - we shall see! lol

I like Ego Trip - the bottom on it is a diamond, but I just HATE that chairlift exit. The exits I hate don't really have a flat area for you to rest your board on and stand up - they all just drop off the minute the chair lift is there and I need time to adjust before zipping down the drop off. Skis - I had no problem, but on the snowboard I just have problems with those chairlifts that launch you down the exit right away. I stress the whole ride up on the chairlift about falling - and those lifts are slow! lol So lot's of built up stress only to go 3 minutes down the mountain to be stressed all over again with the chairlift!

I like the blue runs on the left of the mountain - but again, hate those chairlift exits!!!

But with this newer board it may be different - I will try again next year and see how it goes.
Ego Trip was my 1st steep run ever, so it definitely has a place in my heart

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Im like your husband. I will keep trying something until I just hurt too much to keep going. Then I go have a drink or two and try again I think getting him a board with magnetraction will help him lots. I'm amazed at how well it works, or perhaps it was just my old board was that bad.

Getting off the lifts is 99% mental. If you tell yourself you are going to fall...you're going to fall. So stop that stressing stuff, it's not gonna help you. Visualize yourself gliding right off that thing. Tell yourself "I am gonna get off this chair and just riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide on down"

I'm short, not even 5 foot tall and when I ride a quad with skiers I always wait for them to unload first. So lifts that have steep ramps like that I often have to drop off the chair, my board won't even touch the snow if my ass is still on the chair. Just pretend that it's flat and hold on the to chair when you stand up to steady yourself. When you feel like you're balanced let go of the chair. Just like riding, weight forward.

Also, play with where you keep your unstrapped foot. I've found it's much easier to steer if I put my back food in the middle of the bindings. On my old cambered board it was better with the right foot pressed against back binding.
Agreed! Nuff said!I prefer to push my back foot up against my binding because I don't have a stomp pad on my board, and I slip right off if it's wet & I don't push against it.
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They run 7 during the week too, at least now they do. You may have caught it on an off day...? Yeah, I'll only attempt The Wall when it's on the softer side. When it's icy I don't bother, it's just too damn scary for me when it's rock hard


Im convinced they randomly run chairs during the week. Probably to do with conditions more then anything. But still,I think they just run what they feel like and if it's a weekday and no one is there, they don't bother.

Vicki, my first black run was that one off miracle mile. Except I had no intention of going there. Took a wrong turn off the summit run and ended up way over my head. Did the heel edge falling leaf and tried to psych myself up to attempt a turn. Before that could happen I ran out of snow. I ended up taking my heel edge falling leaf right off the edge of the groomer into the mud. I had to unstrap and hike out. Got mud all over my nice white boots Then I hiked thru the trees back onto the summit run. I was able to get all the mud off me before too many people saw and I still never came close to crashing into anyone.

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We did traverse across to the left side of the mountain for a couple runs & even though Vicki was a little nervous about riding the cat track across, she did a fantastic job of handling it. I love that side of the mountain so much, even if it is just a 3 min or so ride to the lift.

I like it over there too, lapping chair 6 is fun. There's always nice little rollers.

Log Jam is a pretty accurate name. I'm shocked it's getting so much love. So many people, so many features. I've had some bad crashes on those jumps down there, Im scarred for life!
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Im convinced they randomly run chairs during the week. Probably to do with conditions more then anything. But still,I think they just run what they feel like and if it's a weekday and no one is there, they don't bother.

Vicki, my first black run was that one off miracle mile. Except I had no intention of going there. Took a wrong turn off the summit run and ended up way over my head. Did the heel edge falling leaf and tried to psych myself up to attempt a turn. Before that could happen I ran out of snow. I ended up taking my heel edge falling leaf right off the edge of the groomer into the mud. I had to unstrap and hike out. Got mud all over my nice white boots Then I hiked thru the trees back onto the summit run. I was able to get all the mud off me before too many people saw and I still never came close to crashing into anyone.

love the costumes!
My 1st black was Dicky's I think. Pretty steep & loaded with moguls. It was my 2nd day riding & I got separated from my friends in the snow storm we were riding in (approx 10-15ft visibility max). I got so scared & felt so uncomfortable I unclipped & hiked down to the bottom. Took me almost an hour to hike down I think. Quickly learned I needed to learn to at least do a falling leaf down the steeps in case it happened again
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@handscreate - my knee pain is pain from the fun I was having! You didn't push me - plus this was our third day of playing there! Thank D for spending the time with us also - and glad you guys were able to get in some good fun before it got slushy! I appreciate everything!
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