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Up here, a foot to 15 inches is actually ideal; anything over that in one dose gets to be a pain in the ass. Newbies cant handle it all up here when it gets like this. I have been in your type of dry continental snow chest deep and can still maintain speed on relatively gentle slopes. If someone can ride off piste in the PNW, they can ride anywhere.
im going to say that anything over a foot to 15" anywhere newbies cant handle. one fall and getting buried and a rider unfamiliar with deep off piste pow could lose their shit and freak out trying to escape, not to mention being unsure how to get going again or find their way out. the only down side to having a shit ton of pow (2ft range) is that you are limited to what you can ride due to how steep of a slope you have to be on to make it down.

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Don't wish to HiJack the thread, but I feel the need to ask a "NooB" question,..

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use the rear foot to actually control edge pressure and tilt for a more surfboard like feel and to prevent the powder tomahawk.

I think I might just have a picture in my head of exactly what the "Powder Tomahawk" probably is, but just so I can be certain,..

WTF exactly Is a Powder Tomahawk?? I'm imagining the nose of the board Augering down Hard @ speed into the deep stuff and that, that serves as the starting point for this particular process?

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Don't wish to HiJack the thread, but I feel the need to ask a "NooB" question,..

Originally posted by Snowolf;
use the rear foot to actually control edge pressure and tilt for a more surfboard like feel and to prevent the powder tomahawk.

I think I might just have a picture in my head of exactly what the "Powder Tomahawk" probably is, but just so I can be certain,..

WTF exactly Is a Powder Tomahawk?? I'm imagining the nose of the board Augering down Hard @ speed into the deep stuff and that, that serves as the starting point for this particular process?
Think of it like this... Ever seen someone or gone over the bars yourself on a bicycle? The bicycle stops but your momentum doesn't. The Tomahawk involves going fast, having your nose nosedive into powder which stops your momentum, making you basically do a front flip onto your ass. Sometimes these can be saved and you will actually land back on your board and ride it out. Other times you will fly through the air like a ragdoll

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I'm imagining the nose of the board Augering down Hard @ speed into the deep stuff and that, that serves as the starting point for this particular process?
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Powder riding on steeps keeps being pain in my ass too. Iím not an experienced rider, may be 40 days in total. I have 158 hybrid camrock board and i weigh 138 lb only.

My problem is about turns on steep slopes taking so long time because shifting my center of gravity to the back limits my back legís ability in turns. Delay in my turns causes excessive speed and sometimes losing my control on steeps. I would be glad, if someone may explain how to make agressive turns on steep slopes while riding on powder.

I still try to figure out the role of front leg in turn initiation on powder. Should i use my front leg first to iniate to turn by using the torsional force like in groomed runs or keep steady while backfoot initiating turn by using edges like in kitesurfing or wakeboarding?

Is popping essential for quick turns? If yes, how should i do it to make aggresive and quick turns?

I would be glad, if you have a look into my riding style and feel free to make comment or advice about my technique(Iím the one in black snowsuit). I still have some serious doubts about my technique. Thank you for your help...

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Think of it like this... Ever seen someone or gone over the bars yourself on a bicycle? The bicycle stops but your momentum doesn't. The Tomahawk involves going fast, having your nose nosedive into powder which stops your momentum, making you basically do a front flip onto your ass. Sometimes these can be saved and you will actually land back on your board and ride it out. Other times you will fly through the air like a ragdoll
That's exactly what happened to me at Squaw in tahoe this past weekend. This is my first season riding and last weekend was my first ever taste of the powder...literally...I was eating it big time and went over the front edge of the board about 3 or 4 times in some spectacular wipe-outs! Up to now my lessons have not included what to do when you ride powder and wow did I get creamed big time. If I wasn't tomahawking I was coming to a dead stop and had no clue how to get out of it and get going again...was a learning experience for sure!! I'm still not sure what to do but will be pouring over this part of the forum for the next few weeks to understand where I went wrong...
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That's exactly what happened to me at Squaw in tahoe this past weekend. This is my first season riding and last weekend was my first ever taste of the powder...literally...I was eating it big time and went over the front edge of the board about 3 or 4 times in some spectacular wipe-outs! Up to now my lessons have not included what to do when you ride powder and wow did I get creamed big time. If I wasn't tomahawking I was coming to a dead stop and had no clue how to get out of it and get going again...was a learning experience for sure!! I'm still not sure what to do but will be pouring over this part of the forum for the next few weeks to understand where I went wrong...
Just out of curiosity, which runs were you riding? I ride at Squaw too, and there are a bunch of really fun places to get some great snow on powder days. Last week was awesome!
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Just out of curiosity, which runs were you riding? I ride at Squaw too, and there are a bunch of really fun places to get some great snow on powder days. Last week was awesome!
Yeah - it was awesome. And not too busy either. I was on a few green runs including east broadway and baileys I think then a couple of blues including saddle I think but can't remember the other one. I got stuck off the side of east broadway a few times...quite funny...for my wife anyway...
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Yeah - it was awesome. And not too busy either. I was on a few green runs including east broadway and baileys I think then a couple of blues including saddle I think but can't remember the other one. I got stuck off the side of east broadway a few times...quite funny...for my wife anyway...
Yeah I nearly killed myself at one point when I transitioned from groomer to powder and didn't realize it until my nose caught and I was tomahawking ... I had most of my weight on my front foot and was going pretty fast. Getting stuck sucks, especially when you have skier friends who tease you when you have to unstrap and climb out!
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Yeah I nearly killed myself at one point when I transitioned from groomer to powder and didn't realize it until my nose caught and I was tomahawking ... I had most of my weight on my front foot and was going pretty fast. Getting stuck sucks, especially when you have skier friends who tease you when you have to unstrap and climb out!
Dude that is EXACTLY what happened to me...with my wife skiing behind me laughing her ass off... You going back up again this weekend? I reckon that's my last trip up for this season. I did buy the special price season pass for next season though so I plan on hitting squaw a lot December onwards...can't wait...
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