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post #11 of 17 (permalink) Old 05-09-2012, 11:38 AM Thread Starter
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Alright, this is some good info guys.
I am just beginning to see that snowboarding is a very complex sport. Probably that's why it's so popular, there are no limits in sight.
Oh how I wish the winter just started so I can practice some more tricks ... well, I will probably try some more in the pool this summer. I find it quite good training.
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Alright, this is some good info guys.
I am just beginning to see that snowboarding is a very complex sport. Probably that's why it's so popular, there are no limits in sight.
I don't think it's quite this complex... but he sure makes it sound like it is!! haha. Maybe if I go to University I will get better at snowboarding?

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Off axis rotation. Not a flip, not flat. And by off-axis, it is implied that the "axis" is an orthogonal set perpendicular in one dimension and parallel in the other to the direction of gravity.

Edit, that's not really clear I guess. Basically, a spin where you rotating not around your waist or over your head. The least corked spins literally look like a corkscrew ... imagine spinning around through the air and creating a helix with your shoulders. Corks have become so "corked" that they sometimes are closer to like an underflip but are still off-axis.
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One more question for you guys. Can you perform corks on any amount of rotation that is greater than 540 ? I was under the impression that corks can be:
  • single = 540
  • double = 1080
  • tripple = whatever

But now I see on this forum people talking about cork 7 ... what is that, cork 1.33 ? How does that work, you go upside down one and a half times ? :P
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Generally to cork at least once you have to throw a 5 or more because if you tried to cork a 3 you'd end up doing a backflip. The physics of spinning off-axis counts the total rotation both around the waist and over the head. So a cork 5 is basically a front or backside 1 while rotating once, off axis, vertically. A cork 7 is just a cork 5 with full 360 degree rotation around the waist. Double corks require 900 degrees in order to not be just a double backflip. Usually you see riders rotate it to 1080 or 1260 more commonly.



First hit is a cab 9 double, you can see how the horizontal rotation lets him finish the vertical rotation at the right orientation so he can land on his feet. Trying to double cork a 7 would end up having just a backflip because like the cork 3, there is not enough horizontal rotation to rotate twice vertically.

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Alright, this is some good info guys.
I am just beginning to see that snowboarding is a very complex sport. Probably that's why it's so popular, there are no limits in sight.
Oh how I wish the winter just started so I can practice some more tricks ... well, I will probably try some more in the pool this summer. I find it quite good training.
Snowboarding is not just a sport. It's a way of life. We play like there's no tomorrow. Play like we chase the wind. Snowboarding means a lot to us snowboarders.
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Thanks guys, some really good info.
Now, you guys know that if you can't do the trick in your head, there is a very small chance you can land that trick.
I know I am reaching for too much too soon, but I am trying to visualize how to do a BS double cork 1080. Don't panic, I am not trying it, just want to visualize it.

So, let's assume I can land the single BS cork 540 and I want to continue the rotation with another flip.

Here's how I visualize the trick right now:
  1. Start goofy
  2. prewind, carve a little on the toe side
  3. on kicker, release wind diagonally and drop the shoulder
  4. don't forget to pop (I always forget)
  5. grab with leading hand toe edge (mute ?)
  6. keep looking in the direction of rotation
  7. now I'm at first 540 and I am switch (in air)
What do I do next ?

Since I am at switch, will it help if I try switch FS cork 5 to help me for the final part of the double cork ?

Help me visualize the trick after the first 540 pls. Thanks
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