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ok thanks i've only actually been out 5 times with no instructor and went from falling on my ass to small jumps and butters all day long. so i've always asked about my steering habits no one has really corrected me. I used to be a skater so i apply a lot of my skating experience to snowboarding. and if you suggest it no i don't have enough money to get an instructor. i also noticed that "ruddering" i was catching my edge at higher speeds always falling on my ass! i guess i like all my weight on my back leg because i feel more "in control?" not that falling feeling? oh and i turn fine heel and toe i have no issues carving and taking regular turns the ruddering only happens when im trying to speed check while flying down the mountain

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ok thanks i've only actually been out 5 times with no instructor and went from falling on my ass to small jumps and butters all day long. so i've always asked about my steering habits no one has really corrected me. I used to be a skater so i apply a lot of my skating experience to snowboarding. and if you suggest it no i don't have enough money to get an instructor. i also noticed that "ruddering" i was catching my edge at higher speeds always falling on my ass! i guess i like all my weight on my back leg because i feel more "in control?" not that falling feeling? oh and i turn fine heel and toe i have no issues carving and taking regular turns the ruddering only happens when im trying to speed check while flying down the mountain
That "falling forward" feeling is just something you have to conquer with a lot of practice and brain programming - it's what usually holds back beginners and intermediates the most. Eventually you will be able to lean forward and it will feel natural and balanced - not etch-o-sketch. And to ride aggressively you definitely want to be able to lean forward comfortably, it's part of what's necessary to initiate hard-carves.

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i just dont like the floaty not in control feeling i guess lol but like you said it takes time just like what wolf said in another post!
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Yep, you just have to get used to it. You'll find that when you do and you stop leaning back, you have a lot more control over your board. It's just your brain trying to do what feels natural. Leaning forward doesn't. I'm a fairly experienced rider at this point and I still have to fight the urge when I get in gnarly terrain.

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ok thanks i've only actually been out 5 times with no instructor and went from falling on my ass to small jumps and butters all day long. so i've always asked about my steering habits no one has really corrected me. I used to be a skater so i apply a lot of my skating experience to snowboarding. and if you suggest it no i don't have enough money to get an instructor. i also noticed that "ruddering" i was catching my edge at higher speeds always falling on my ass! i guess i like all my weight on my back leg because i feel more "in control?" not that falling feeling? oh and i turn fine heel and toe i have no issues carving and taking regular turns the ruddering only happens when im trying to speed check while flying down the mountain
See this so often: People buy high-end equipment, but spend no money on proper instruction to learn how to use it. Golf, tennis, etc. are the same. Always baffles me.
One of the guys I take private lessons from sometimes shows up on his beat-up old deck with Burton Custom bindings and all the 'cool' kids with their Custom X/T. Rice/Never Summer boards snigger and look down their noses - then he sticks back-to-back 7s in the pipe or a massive cork of the big kicker.

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I'm 23 I spent 8 months with my gear on layaway. then I'm moving to denver in a few months, barely gonna get a season pass much less being able to afford lessons. but i bet after 2 days on the mountain ill have it right.. i was always trying to chase my gf then. I'm single now. I'm down if anyone wants to show me a thing or two when I'm on the mountain!
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snowolf like i said a few posts ago i actually steer fine edge to edge turns and well balanced its when i go fast i rudder to control speed< there inlies the issue. i carve c's all day i mean not like Carving like carvers but i get i pencil line and can feather fall or leaf fall i can navigate through anything its just going fast i don't know how to do proper speed checks. i can slow down and stop i have raced my ex down the mountain lost from catching an edge. its been over a year since i last went but i remember learning the turns heel edge and toe edge. i know i have a lot of improvement to do! so im just trying to figure out the best way to explain this.

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Getting a video of your riding would help huge. I did a vid of myself using a Contour on a pole last year, and was able to determine some specific problems with my riding and correct them.


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Ok im going to leave the whole carving thing aside and pretend you didn't mention a leaf or feather. If you want to ride with more stability at higher speeds you need to be on your front foot and get lower in your stance. If you don't believe us or don't want to then fine stay on your back foot it won't effect our riding. When you are on your front foot if you are flat on your board then it will pivot with every little motion get kicked back and forth by the snow until you fall. If you don't want this to happen always stay on some sort of your edge. You should try to make some turns with the back foot out so it forces you to use front foot only ( I do recommend the bunny slope for this). Understand that we are not trying to disagree with your riding level its just some of us have seen and heard of these problems many times. You say you can't afford an instructor yet your not taking the advise of one of the best (Snowolf) for free.
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Best thing to do, put up a video and be open to advice.

Put the ego aside its one of the main barriers to progressing in anything.

People on here in particular Mr Wolf of the snow variety is giving out quality instruction and advice.

With a video the advice will be more precise and suited to your needs.

We all have an image of how we are riding (usually far from reality), but a trained impartial eye will give us an accurate level check and provide the information we need to progress.

I put a several videos up and got some excellent advice that helped me progress last season and I will post more in the future.

Like I said the first thing was for me to put aside my ego and self image and be open to the advice.
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