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Old 08-01-2012, 02:22 AM   #1 (permalink)
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hi guys, long time lurker here

I'm a beginner learning how to link turns. I've got a video of me slowly going down a blue run. I'm just wondering if anyone can give any feedback on if what im doing is correct and any improvements that i can do. I still find it a challenge to do it on steep and bump runs ><

Fast forward to 0:25 pls


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Old 08-01-2012, 06:51 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Hey mate, is that at Whakapapa?
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Old 08-01-2012, 07:22 AM   #3 (permalink)
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yes it is last weekend!
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Old 08-01-2012, 11:16 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Sorry I couldn't make it all the way through your video. What I did watch looks like skidded turns and that you're ruddering your back leg to turn. Turn initiation should be taking place at your front foot and begining of the effective edge. At this point it looks like the other issue is your lack of speed. It is more challenging to initiate at the front with out speed. With increased speed turns will become easier to initiate and you will be able to increase your edge angle. In the video your edge angle is pretty flat to the surface when turning, this makes it difficult to turn and increases edge catch.

Posture wise you're pretty upright. You'll want to bend your knees more and use your toe and heel pressure to turn.
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Honestly, didn't look too bad. First and fore most, go faster. It's harder to figure out where you need improvement if you are only doing slow, half assed turns at 7 mph. At that slow speed your movements are going to be sloppy. And like mentioned before, its harder to make good, clean, fast turns when you are going slow. The hill looks like a crowded cluster fuck with little snow, so that does make it tricky to go fast. It looks like you are turning your head and shoulders where you want to turn, and then bringing the board around which is good. You are sliding around on your edge vs having the board flat and trying to spin, which is good for avoiding catching an edge. Unless you are bombing something and intentionally going flat based you should always be on an edge. That's where the control is, and it will keep you from eating shit. The one thing I noticed is that you should try to get a more aggressive and confident stance. That will also come out and be more important when you go faster. It just kind of looks like a wet noodle strapped to the board. Don't necessarily tense up, but tighten up how you are standing and moving. Bend your knees a bit (important for handling faster runs and the bumps) and get a more poised stance, to be ready to make fast adjustments and quick movements. My buddy does the same thing, hes a good rider, but he just doesn't ride serious enough. He just kind of stands on the board and lets it carry him down the hill and it shows because he falls a lot more on simple stuff like a turn, and it's just a lot more sloppy. It almost looks like he is giving it 60%. So take it to some faster runs, and go faster, and you will HAVE to get into more of an athletic stance or you won't be able to react fast enough. Then take another video. my .02
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Old 08-01-2012, 02:35 PM   #6 (permalink)
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hi guys, long time lurker here

I'm a beginner learning how to link turns. I've got a video of me slowly going down a blue run. I'm just wondering if anyone can give any feedback on if what im doing is correct and any improvements that i can do. I still find it a challenge to do it on steep and bump runs ><

Fast forward to 0:25 pls

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You look like you're still uncomfortable with speed. That actually looks like some fun trails but not great for learning to turn and gather speed. You're doing a lot of feathering it seems


Btw, what is up with the traffic jam at 4:30? And after that the trails look dangerous for newbies from the video. Steep drop offs and rocks everywhere?
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Old 08-01-2012, 08:10 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Very useful information from everyone's feedback. I too starting to learning turning now, I caught a few edges before and I think becuase I did not engage my front foot enough and the speed are another factor of turning the board smoothly.

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Old 08-01-2012, 08:25 PM   #8 (permalink)
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How do you maintaining and slow down on cat trails? sometime it is too narrow to do any wide turns for beginners. I tend to feather down in narrow runs.
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kino, you ride better than your boyfriend . Holy shit there are lots of rocks...idk if you want to go faster without first having good turning control to dodge all the rocks and people on the skinny track. I would advise you to quickly learn to ollie to avoid the gashes in your base. You got a good start and I'd advise a private lesson from a qualified instructor like snowolf to tweak a few things and you'll easily elevate your riding to a new level.
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yes it is last weekend!
Unfortunately I recognised it due to the lack of snow and pretty crappy conditions
Was there the weekend before that and it wasnt much better

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You look like you're still uncomfortable with speed. That actually looks like some fun trails but not great for learning to turn and gather speed. You're doing a lot of feathering it seems


Btw, what is up with the traffic jam at 4:30? And after that the trails look dangerous for newbies from the video. Steep drop offs and rocks everywhere?
If you go straight instead of going uphill you end up at 2 black runs (albeit it would have been closed due to the lack of snow and exposed rocks) so most people opt for that instead - even if you do make it up, chances are that it will be blocked by a shitload of people and you would have to stop anyway.
That drop looks a bit worse than normal, usually it isnt that nasty, but if you go too far left you hit overhanging rocks, and too far right and you fall off
This field just kinda funnels people into narrow places.
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