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DirtyD27 · 11-19-2012, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Slush Puppie

or my preference, see if you can tail press the entire way

+1 this is actually how I learned to tail press. I found that when I was first starting out straight flat groomed runs got me too. So what I found is that applying or shifting your weight back helps a lot then just control speed with what has already mentioned mico carving or long drawn out carves so your on edge longer. what really fun is when you have a long flat transfer section that is littered with ppl that are slow or even stopped in the middle of the run and your bobbing and weaving them. I typically like to ice those sitting in the middle of the run usually followed up with a choice finger.

LuckyRVA · 11-20-2012, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by krankedmusic

Stay low to the ground and tail press. Lean heel to toe a bit to keep balance but practice is key.

This is how I learned to deal with long run outs. You can nose press as well.

tlake2568 · 11-21-2012, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ShredLife

too many people get to the runout or the cat track and they stand up perfectly straight and start fucking with their iphone and the next thing you know - scorpion!

Too Fucking True. So guilty of this. Tweaked my forearm last year because of this. I had a nice section down one of the blues, stood up straight to go "YEAH" and bam, edge catch and scorp'd.

Not fun.

Sincraft · 12-02-2012, 10:12 PM

here is how I handled this last year.

Say the track is only 15' wide. Very hard for a new guy following some of these suggestions to turn left turn right. Carve, dynamic - whatever. Either we dont have the muscle knowledge, the stamina, or the mental fortitude to successfully complete this task.

I would recommend that you do as someone suggested, and hold an edge. You will favor the edge that keeps you in the middle of the slope the easiest, avoiding slowly going off the edge of the slope.

Once you feel you are picking up too much speed, thats when you do your almost stop turn up opposite of the trail slope, then immediately correct it back again to 'straight' holding that edge once more. This is an excercise to build up those leg muscles for stamina also.

The common thing for me was to hold onto my toe edge, which kept me from falling off the edge of the trail as it sloped on my heel side. I would then feel I was picking up too much speed or catching up with zig zagging skiers so I would have to slow down. To do this, I would kickout my back foot with an almost backwards stop , then straighten it out again holing my toe edge.

It wasnt until I was much better that I felt comfortable turning TOWARD the slope of the hill. That was almost always disastrous for me.

So in short, you are riding an edge opposite of the slope of the trail (im not talking about the fall line), then every so often do a speed check by almost stopping, then riding that edge again.

Dont try to turn back and forth, especially on a trail that isn't level and slopes down the mountain. Unless you have some speed, this is where most people say "well why can I turn toward the fall line on my heel side on the slpoe, but on the bunny trail I cannot not"

The answer is simple. centrifugal force. ( I think)

moesymoe · 12-03-2012, 05:02 AM

It can be very difficult as a beginner to throw in quick, efficient turns on a narrow track.
Staying on a single edge can also be tricky as the natural camber in the board will bring you towards one side or other of the cat track.
Just trying to stay flat is also very problematic as described above and riding on a very low edge angle can be very difficult to master as a beginner.

To keep the board going straight and true while also avoiding the dreaded edge catch, I find it's good to pick an edge and focus on digging that edge in with your back foot while keeping the board flat with your front foot. This will ensure you avoid drifting towards the side and also prevents you catching an unwanted edge. I also find this easier on your leg muscles so there is much less burn, you can just relax and let the board ride.

megwell · 12-16-2012, 01:57 PM

well i went to whistler for opening weekend a few weeks ago
i took my rossignol exprience ......first time riding it as it is 168 and i believe my burton custom flying v is about 156?

anyhow
wow what a difference between the boards

i took advice for riding the flats and the things that were said here that i took with me the most is
1 someone said....... you can't catch and edge when you are on an edge
2 micro carves to slow down

i applied these two principals and possible with the new board.....made one hell of a difference

i only bailed once.......lol in comparison to always bailing

overall i had a great time and i truely appreciate the advice as i believe it helped me out alot!

12-02-2012, 10:12 PM	#24 (permalink)
Sincraft Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 295	here is how I handled this last year. Say the track is only 15' wide. Very hard for a new guy following some of these suggestions to turn left turn right. Carve, dynamic - whatever. Either we dont have the muscle knowledge, the stamina, or the mental fortitude to successfully complete this task. I would recommend that you do as someone suggested, and hold an edge. You will favor the edge that keeps you in the middle of the slope the easiest, avoiding slowly going off the edge of the slope. Once you feel you are picking up too much speed, thats when you do your almost stop turn up opposite of the trail slope, then immediately correct it back again to 'straight' holding that edge once more. This is an excercise to build up those leg muscles for stamina also. The common thing for me was to hold onto my toe edge, which kept me from falling off the edge of the trail as it sloped on my heel side. I would then feel I was picking up too much speed or catching up with zig zagging skiers so I would have to slow down. To do this, I would kickout my back foot with an almost backwards stop , then straighten it out again holing my toe edge. It wasnt until I was much better that I felt comfortable turning TOWARD the slope of the hill. That was almost always disastrous for me. So in short, you are riding an edge opposite of the slope of the trail (im not talking about the fall line), then every so often do a speed check by almost stopping, then riding that edge again. Dont try to turn back and forth, especially on a trail that isn't level and slopes down the mountain. Unless you have some speed, this is where most people say "well why can I turn toward the fall line on my heel side on the slpoe, but on the bunny trail I cannot not" The answer is simple. centrifugal force. ( I think) __________________ Say NO to GMO! http://www.saynotogmos.org/

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12-03-2012, 05:02 AM	#25 (permalink)
moesymoe Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 11	It can be very difficult as a beginner to throw in quick, efficient turns on a narrow track. Staying on a single edge can also be tricky as the natural camber in the board will bring you towards one side or other of the cat track. Just trying to stay flat is also very problematic as described above and riding on a very low edge angle can be very difficult to master as a beginner. To keep the board going straight and true while also avoiding the dreaded edge catch, I find it's good to pick an edge and focus on digging that edge in with your back foot while keeping the board flat with your front foot. This will ensure you avoid drifting towards the side and also prevents you catching an unwanted edge. I also find this easier on your leg muscles so there is much less burn, you can just relax and let the board ride.

12-16-2012, 01:57 PM	#26 (permalink)
megwell Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 8	well i went to whistler for opening weekend a few weeks ago i took my rossignol exprience ......first time riding it as it is 168 and i believe my burton custom flying v is about 156? anyhow wow what a difference between the boards i took advice for riding the flats and the things that were said here that i took with me the most is 1 someone said....... you can't catch and edge when you are on an edge 2 micro carves to slow down i applied these two principals and possible with the new board.....made one hell of a difference i only bailed once.......lol in comparison to always bailing overall i had a great time and i truely appreciate the advice as i believe it helped me out alot!