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Flapping nose – New setup

Hi.
I just had the chance to try out my new setup.
And here comes the PROBLEM!!!

When I initiate a frontside turn, my nose starts to flap hardly, so it takes powerful effort to stabilize my board.
What could be the reason for that?
In addition my front foot starts hurting as well very quickly (regular)…

My specification:
I am 168 cm / 80 kg.
Rome Crail 153
Burton Mission
Nitro Anthem
Binding angle: 15°/-6°
Stance width 52,5 cm

I attached an image, to show how I fixed my stance.
Greatful for any advise.

Oh, I should mention, I am not a pro boarder. I started last winter and have ridden 7 days. Last weekend was my 8th day.

Thanks to all of you!
Cheers.
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Are you riding powder or groomers? If not pow, why are you setting back your bindings? You're taking weight off the front of the board from doing that, hence why it's flapping. That's something that powder riders do to compensate for using a board not specifically built for powder, as it helps stop the nose dipping into the snow, and means you don't have to constantly keep as much weight on your tail.

You are also using a very short board for your weight. This sacrifices a lot of stability. I'd only put you on a 153 if you were riding park all day.
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Hi.
Thanks for the quick reply.

Ok. For the lenght… well… I already bought the board so…
I was thinking between 153 and 155 and I took this one.

As for my riding habits: I am still riding the pists. Kind of still "learining"…

So, if I am not "setting back" my bindings, I would go like this, see attachment.
I would take the most front holes to screw in my bindings. Is this better?

The "setting back" wasnt my intension, more my lack of experience in the material. Therefore many thanks for the help.
Counting my days for my next ride…
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I would personally say you want to be on a 156cm board, but you already have your stick so that's irrelevant now I suppose.

Setting back means putting your bindings further towards your tail than the nose.

If you used only the front holes, you'd be setting them forward, which would be very counter productive.


You want to set your bindings so to give equal distance from nose and tail. The only way you will find your preferred width/angles is by trying them.

Set your bindings to use the holes closest to the centre of the board, on both your nose and tail. This will put you dead centre. Then slowly move them out, at the same distance each, until you find your preferred stance width. So for example, rather than being 50.5cm away from the nose and 47.5cm away from the tail, you'd be 49cm away from both.

You will find your weight when riding will be over the centre of the board this way, rather than over your tail. This should counter any nose flapping issues that you've been having. Also in your riding technique, make sure you are keep your weight over the front of your board. You may find you have been leaning backwards somewhat, which people tend to do when they are learning.
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Are you riding powder or groomers? If not pow, why are you setting back your bindings? You're taking weight off the front of the board from doing that, hence why it's flapping. That's something that powder riders do to compensate for using a board not specifically built for powder, as it helps stop the nose dipping into the snow, and means you don't have to constantly keep as much weight on your tail.

You are also using a very short board for your weight. This sacrifices a lot of stability. I'd only put you on a 153 if you were riding park all day.
The Crail is supposed to have setback. However, not as much as the set-up by the OP - I believe it is 20mm, while the OP has ~35mm.

Agree that the 153 is pretty short for the OP's weight.
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But as you can see in the first image I posted, the witdh between "Nose-Middle of the bindung" and "Tail-Middle of the binding" arent the same to begin with. So, I would never have an equal "twin"…
Am I wrong?
Ah…*newbie… sorry.
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Sorry.
What does "OP" stand for?
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The Crail is supposed to have setback. However, not as much as the set-up by the OP - I believe it is 20mm, while the OP has ~35mm.
I suppose it makes sense considering it's directional, but it doesn't seem like a great idea for beginners, as they tend to lean backwards a lot.
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I can see the problem of a beginner tending to lean backwards…
But I was really trying not to…
Hm…
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But as you can see in the first image I posted, the witdh between "Nose-Middle of the bindung" and "Tail-Middle of the binding" arent the same to begin with. So, I would never have an equal "twin"…
Am I wrong?
Ah…*newbie… sorry.
As hktrdr has pointed out to me, the Crail is supposed to have a slight setback, just not as far as you have it set up currently. As the binding distances are already slightly set back, you can't have an equal twin, but you can definitely changed the distances to help centre your weight.

Anything else will have to come down to a change in riding technique. Do you find yourself learning backwards a lot?
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