Ollie help? - Page 2 - Snowboarding Forum

alaric · 12-10-2012, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowolf

You guys are overthinking the Ollie. It is a very non complicated maneuver. It has two very basic movements put together. A sime fore-aft shift and an independent flexion and extension. Personally I find very little similarity between a snowboard Ollie and a skateboard Ollie; the mechanics are very different, but that's just me.

The Ollie is done flat based not off of your toes and definitely not off of your heels. It is a sime thre step maneuver:

1) use your legs to shift your hips and upper body toward the nose.

2) rapidly shift your body toward the tail and allow your back leg to compress.

3) as soon as you reach maximum aft shift and compression, energetically push against the tail of the board with the back foot.

Now, once in the air, be sure to shift your weight back to center so that you level out the board and land flat. Riders who neglect to do this land tail heavy, flat on their back or clip the park feature on takeoff!

The only thing difficult about the Ollie is getting your timing down for these simple movements and maintaining a quite, stacked upper body that stays aligned with the board to prevent rotation.

Really guys, the Ollie is a very simple maneuver, it just takes practice to learn to feel when your timing is perfect to get the spring out of the tail. Practice small Ollies everywhere you ride and focus on correct timing and stability not height. You will learn more from doing it small but correct than from just hucking your meat.

I agree and disagree

The motions aren't quite the same, that's definitely true. I think what it was for me was a confidence thing. Being able to do it on a skateboard mentally told me I could do it on a snowboard.

As I said earlier, I think the biggest thing that the skateboard helped me with was simply landing on it. It is much more difficult to land on a skateboard (my opinion) but it helped me balance better in air on a snowboard leading to a better landing. Also, the whole confidence thing is there too.

snowklinger · 12-10-2012, 09:54 PM

Its complicated because of the timing involved. On a skate aside from the off-timing of the piston action, the front foot also has to slide up the deck pulling it into the air while the back foot is forced to follow paralell so that you are actually like this in midair \ \.

The main difference for the guy who can ollie a skate, the power you get out of kicking your tail on a sk8 is what you get from flexing your board somewhere around or a bit behind the rear binding (depending on the board). Every board has its own personality, but you will find that when you mix boardflex, timing and a little terrain help, you can BOOST it.

Unless your riding some plank.

Snowolf if you are doing a flatland ollie like over a slow sign or something you have to get your front foot shoved like you do in a big skate ollie, I see your perspective but suggest there are as many similarties as differences between the two.

NWBoarder · 12-10-2012, 10:31 PM

^^^This reminds me, I'm gonna show you how to properly ollie that skate of yours one of these days.

snowklinger · 12-11-2012, 12:23 AM

skateboarding is fucking difficult and painful. I hanged it up at 25.

kimchijajonshim · 12-11-2012, 01:04 AM

I don't have the most consistent or best ollies, but I can pop some good ones on occasion. What I have found helps:

A.) Making a pretty exaggerated circle with the while compressing the legs, first over the front foot, moving weight to the back foot, and then exploding out off the back foot. When I'm not popping good ollies, I tend to not load enough on the front foot and just snap off the back foot. Works in some situations, but you definitely don't get the same power.

B.) Keep your upper body mostly upright, with hips and center of gravity over the board. What I notice happens when I pop shitty ollies is I break at the waist and lose a ton of power that would otherwise be going into the board.

C.) Keep the upper body quiet and your shoulders parallel to the direction you're trying to go. On bad ollies, I let my upper body get wild, open the shoulders, which opens the hips, and throws me completely off balance in the air.

RockyMTNsteeze · 12-11-2012, 01:34 AM

I ollie one footed on my snowboard higher than I can with a skateboard. I can't skate like I can snowboard. I actually think mountain biking was a big factor in my nice snowboard ollie.

When I see a good thing to ollie off of, I get flat on my base and go directly in for the kill. I pick a spot to ollie. I kinda scoot the board a little forward and shift my leading knee into the ollie and pop the tail up. Then I hear that POP, it sounds like thunder when I ollie.

This probably makes no sense, look up snowboard ollie on Utube and watch other people do them. This video does a better job at explaining ollies than me. For me it was like something that clicked and was not being pursued. Once it clicked I was always doing them.

spinn3rs · 12-11-2012, 01:56 AM

Im also trying to learn how to ollie and i suck at it big time.
Seen a ton of youtube videos but yesterday i came across this one.
Looks by far the simplest to understand and shows all movements involved from start to finish.
Hope this helps a bit.
Burton Academy Trick Trips: The Ollie - YouTube

Reminiscent · 12-11-2012, 03:12 AM

To be able to do a great ollie, I recommend learning how an ollie works. By this I mean how loading up on your back leg and releasing it gets you high up in the air. Learning how to ollie on a skateboard can and most likely will be extremely frustrating and time consuming. This is why I don't recommend it. Also, doing ollies when strapped to a board is a lot different than performing an ollie on a snowboard. I have some friends that can do 3 feet ollies on a skateboard and yet can't get a foot in the air when boarding. Anyways, you have to first learn how an ollie functions/works, and then you'll be that much closer to performing your first perfect ollie. The terrain you ride also plays a role in the ollie. You have to make yourself one with the terrain (Can't stop laughing after writing that). Anyways, you have to know when to ollie. It's hard to explain, but I'll give it a try. For optimal results when performing an ollie, you must execute it when the slope gives you a boost. You know when you're going super fast and sometimes you get some air without meaning to? You have to anticipate those moments and ollie right there. I really don't think this is helping you, but I gave it my best shot.

SGoldwin · 12-11-2012, 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spinn3rs

Im also trying to learn how to ollie and i suck at it big time.
Seen a ton of youtube videos but yesterday i came across this one.
Looks by far the simplest to understand and shows all movements involved from start to finish.
Hope this helps a bit.
Burton Academy Trick Trips: The Ollie - YouTube

Great video! But I spot a difference compared to previous explenations:
- In the video from weight over front leg he slided the board forward in a quick movement to get his weight over back leg.
- As I read/understood suggestion is from weight over front leg to move upper body quickly to weight over back leg.
The end result is the same - weight over back leg. But the transition is different - at least as described. I havn't tried it yet. Since I am not that good at ollie it will be interesting to see if this can improve my ollies.

SGoldwin · 12-11-2012, 05:35 AM

Sierrasnowboard usually has good video of tricks. Here is their version of Ollie: Snowboard Trick Tips: How to Ollie - YouTube

I like the way they take it step by step.

12-10-2012, 09:54 PM	#12 (permalink)
snowklinger Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: fuck boulder Posts: 2,814	Its complicated because of the timing involved. On a skate aside from the off-timing of the piston action, the front foot also has to slide up the deck pulling it into the air while the back foot is forced to follow paralell so that you are actually like this in midair \ \. The main difference for the guy who can ollie a skate, the power you get out of kicking your tail on a sk8 is what you get from flexing your board somewhere around or a bit behind the rear binding (depending on the board). Every board has its own personality, but you will find that when you mix boardflex, timing and a little terrain help, you can BOOST it. Unless your riding some plank. Snowolf if you are doing a flatland ollie like over a slow sign or something you have to get your front foot shoved like you do in a big skate ollie, I see your perspective but suggest there are as many similarties as differences between the two. __________________ is it late october yet? Last edited by snowklinger; 12-10-2012 at 10:03 PM.

12-11-2012, 12:23 AM	#14 (permalink)
snowklinger Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: fuck boulder Posts: 2,814	skateboarding is fucking difficult and painful. I hanged it up at 25. __________________ is it late october yet?

12-11-2012, 01:34 AM	#16 (permalink)
RockyMTNsteeze Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Rocky Mountains Posts: 224	I ollie one footed on my snowboard higher than I can with a skateboard. I can't skate like I can snowboard. I actually think mountain biking was a big factor in my nice snowboard ollie. When I see a good thing to ollie off of, I get flat on my base and go directly in for the kill. I pick a spot to ollie. I kinda scoot the board a little forward and shift my leading knee into the ollie and pop the tail up. Then I hear that POP, it sounds like thunder when I ollie. This probably makes no sense, look up snowboard ollie on Utube and watch other people do them. This video does a better job at explaining ollies than me. For me it was like something that clicked and was not being pursued. Once it clicked I was always doing them. __________________ http://www.etsy.com/shop/RockyMTNsteeze IT AINT EAZY BEIN STEEZY Last edited by RockyMTNsteeze; 12-11-2012 at 01:37 AM. Reason: the Utube link was not workin

12-11-2012, 05:35 AM	#20 (permalink)
SGoldwin Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Sweden Posts: 85	Sierrasnowboard usually has good video of tricks. Here is their version of Ollie: Snowboard Trick Tips: How to Ollie - YouTube I like the way they take it step by step. __________________ -- Better to have tried and failed and not tried at all --

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12-11-2012, 01:04 AM	#15 (permalink)
kimchijajonshim Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 191	I don't have the most consistent or best ollies, but I can pop some good ones on occasion. What I have found helps: A.) Making a pretty exaggerated circle with the while compressing the legs, first over the front foot, moving weight to the back foot, and then exploding out off the back foot. When I'm not popping good ollies, I tend to not load enough on the front foot and just snap off the back foot. Works in some situations, but you definitely don't get the same power. B.) Keep your upper body mostly upright, with hips and center of gravity over the board. What I notice happens when I pop shitty ollies is I break at the waist and lose a ton of power that would otherwise be going into the board. C.) Keep the upper body quiet and your shoulders parallel to the direction you're trying to go. On bad ollies, I let my upper body get wild, open the shoulders, which opens the hips, and throws me completely off balance in the air.

12-11-2012, 01:56 AM	#17 (permalink)
spinn3rs Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 47	Im also trying to learn how to ollie and i suck at it big time. Seen a ton of youtube videos but yesterday i came across this one. Looks by far the simplest to understand and shows all movements involved from start to finish. Hope this helps a bit. Burton Academy Trick Trips: The Ollie - YouTube

12-11-2012, 03:12 AM	#18 (permalink)
Reminiscent Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 22	To be able to do a great ollie, I recommend learning how an ollie works. By this I mean how loading up on your back leg and releasing it gets you high up in the air. Learning how to ollie on a skateboard can and most likely will be extremely frustrating and time consuming. This is why I don't recommend it. Also, doing ollies when strapped to a board is a lot different than performing an ollie on a snowboard. I have some friends that can do 3 feet ollies on a skateboard and yet can't get a foot in the air when boarding. Anyways, you have to first learn how an ollie functions/works, and then you'll be that much closer to performing your first perfect ollie. The terrain you ride also plays a role in the ollie. You have to make yourself one with the terrain (Can't stop laughing after writing that). Anyways, you have to know when to ollie. It's hard to explain, but I'll give it a try. For optimal results when performing an ollie, you must execute it when the slope gives you a boost. You know when you're going super fast and sometimes you get some air without meaning to? You have to anticipate those moments and ollie right there. I really don't think this is helping you, but I gave it my best shot.