How to go fast without catching edges? - Page 6 - Snowboarding Forum

bordsmnj · 01-26-2013, 05:20 AM

wow, there's a lot going on in this thread. lots of valid points if they are taken further and put into context. i think a lot has to do with what you consider "going fast". at my local little hill (bear mountain/snow summit) conditions change vastly on a typical "so cal" day. in the morning you ice skating and in the late afternoon your water skiing. i view being on edge as a defensive technique. i've used it. good tool to have. staying flat at really high speeds is used in attacking. even riding flat when your really flying down hard pack your not very much in contact with the surface. the faster i go the tighter and more responsive i want my bindings. also tense leg muscles, weight foreward. drive through it. no staying loose about it. pick your lines and totally commit. by commiting you can change your line if need be just follow your eyes. are you in control? i'll you have to do is ask your self "would i be able to stop right now?" any way i like this thread because it made me put some thought into something i am passionate about. lots i disagree with here too but... no big deal. i think that beveled edges and all curved surfaces at the rear of the board are about controlled release not lift. but then surface conditions come into play, blah blah blah. have FUN!

t21 · 01-26-2013, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Snowolf

Yep exactly! my boot isnt able to move around in the binding but the ankle strap allows for a little more flex, giving the board a "looser" feeling which I like.

I think that's what my Flow binding feels like

edlo · 01-26-2013, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by poutanen

I could barely feel the glue. Put the base down and it was like the drag chutes were deployed!!!

It is a snow board not a surfboard. You still snow for the wax to work otherwise you are in a pond skim.

MarshallV82 · 01-26-2013, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Snowolf

Interesting about the loose bindings. I myself have noticed that I like my binding straps to allow a little bit of give. When I overtighten a binding strap I feel a huge change in the way my board as a whole feels and within 20 feet, I stop and back it off a notch.

I typically ride with my bindings a little loose too. I don't feel any loss and It feels better to me. I think it's mostly mental though, feels more playful or something..

poutanen · 01-26-2013, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by edlo

It is a snow board not a surfboard. You still snow for the wax to work otherwise you are in a pond skim.

Uhhh, what?

No comprende!

edlo · 01-27-2013, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by poutanen

Uhhh, what?

No comprende!

The right wax for the right temperature. The only times I have to deal with the sticky stuff was when it was too warm and the snow was melting at the bottom of the runs creating pools of water. when I'd hit those flat I could feel the suction effect and speed brakes.

that1guy · 01-28-2013, 07:23 AM

I think that is what poutine was trying to say. I know well of this velcro snow. We get it a lot is Washington. Especially during the Junuary month.

rasmasyean · 02-01-2013, 10:44 PM

The base bevel determines how quickly your skis will "hook up" and turn. With a shallower bevel like the .5 degree your skis will tend to be more grabby and as you tilt your ski up on edge it will initiate the turn immediately. Compared to a deeper Bevel like the 2 degree which will take longer to "hook up", and require the ski to be tilted further onto the edge to initiate the turn.

Base Edge Beveling

01-26-2013, 05:20 AM	#51 (permalink)
bordsmnj Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: So. Cal. Posts: 80	wow, there's a lot going on in this thread. lots of valid points if they are taken further and put into context. i think a lot has to do with what you consider "going fast". at my local little hill (bear mountain/snow summit) conditions change vastly on a typical "so cal" day. in the morning you ice skating and in the late afternoon your water skiing. i view being on edge as a defensive technique. i've used it. good tool to have. staying flat at really high speeds is used in attacking. even riding flat when your really flying down hard pack your not very much in contact with the surface. the faster i go the tighter and more responsive i want my bindings. also tense leg muscles, weight foreward. drive through it. no staying loose about it. pick your lines and totally commit. by commiting you can change your line if need be just follow your eyes. are you in control? i'll you have to do is ask your self "would i be able to stop right now?" any way i like this thread because it made me put some thought into something i am passionate about. lots i disagree with here too but... no big deal. i think that beveled edges and all curved surfaces at the rear of the board are about controlled release not lift. but then surface conditions come into play, blah blah blah. have FUN! Last edited by bordsmnj; 01-26-2013 at 05:22 AM.

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01-28-2013, 07:23 AM	#57 (permalink)
that1guy Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Inside the Space Needle Posts: 251	I think that is what poutine was trying to say. I know well of this velcro snow. We get it a lot is Washington. Especially during the Junuary month.

02-01-2013, 10:44 PM	#58 (permalink)
rasmasyean Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 674	The base bevel determines how quickly your skis will "hook up" and turn. With a shallower bevel like the .5 degree your skis will tend to be more grabby and as you tilt your ski up on edge it will initiate the turn immediately. Compared to a deeper Bevel like the 2 degree which will take longer to "hook up", and require the ski to be tilted further onto the edge to initiate the turn. Base Edge Beveling