Toeside turn need some help - Page 2 - Snowboarding Forum

jdang307 · 01-10-2013, 12:57 PM

Fuck the falling leaf.

Nobody taught me falling leaf and I was doing toe side turns after about 6 hours.

Two buddies I brought into the sport were taught falling leaf the very first run, and it took them a long time to shake it.

vPooch · 01-10-2013, 01:02 PM

Yeah i will just do what Snowolf suggested when I go to the mountain tomorrow

jdang307 · 01-10-2013, 01:13 PM

Here is Snowolf talking about it

Be sure to turn down the sound at the beginning

vPooch · 01-10-2013, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdang307

Here is Snowolf talking about it

Be sure to turn down the sound at the beginning

Thanks!

ig88 · 01-10-2013, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donutz

I think he meant uphill and downhill edge. Basically if you dig in your downhill edge, your board will stop abruptly and you won't.

That's right. I apologize. I should have written 'hill' instead of 'heel'.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowolf

I do so for a reason. They are a terrific teaching tool to get people comfortable making the transition from a side slip position to pointing the board down the fall line and bringing it back across the fall line. Unlike the horrible falling leaf, they teach a new rider to ride their board directionally.....

I loved the garlands. Don't ever under-estimate the garlands. The falling leaf is just too mellow and you get too little progress practicing it.

The garlands is really good stuff and you can be as aggressive as you like practicing it. To me, it fosters good habits and speed controls in many aspects of my learning. And again if you are doing it aggressively as you progress and get the hang of it, lots of people don't even realize you are a learner dong this drill. I remember I was progressively stepping up the aggressiveness of my garlands even within the first hour of doing it.

Te me, the garlands is a must-do. It's fun doing it. And it can be as gentle or as aggressive as you could manage it as per your riding skills.

vPooch · 01-11-2013, 10:34 PM

So i went to the mountain today and tried what Snowolf was doing in the vid and it took a couple runs but it worked thanks a lot!!

BKDavid · 01-12-2013, 12:13 AM

Funny, I had the exact opposite experience of the OP. My first time boarding was toward the end of last season. Took some really tough spills but for some reason I was hooked.

Anyway... decided to jump right in and got a board, boots, and bindings. Went twice already this season...and did much better than last year.

However, like I said complete opposite problem of the OP... my first time out this season I found that toe-side turns came naturally to me but I couldn't get my heel-side turns going at all.

When I went back the second time I had a "plan." Some of the things that worked for me was setting the heel of the binding forward a bit to keep myself from leaning back too much. I found that grabbing the side of my snow pants kept me more balanced when I got that wobbly feeling. Then an instructor who had seen me a couple times told me that I should focus more on my lead foot than my back foot and that was a huge help. By the end of the day I was going down no problem, turning and stopping when I wanted. I'm hoping to get back up on the mountain this weekend... will definitely try the Garlands.

BKDavid · 01-14-2013, 01:51 AM

I got on the mountain today as well. Started linking turns for the first time, I was able to do both tight and wide "s-turns." A lot of fun!

I think one of the things that helped me the most this time out was in Wolf's video above... he stresses that you can't really start turning the board in a different direction until the board is straight and you're balanced right on the center of the board.

I fell the first few times attempting the garlands, but by the end of the day I was going down the entire mountain (green) without falling. I had just started getting the hang of falling leaf (had picked it up... never took a lesson) so I think the video above was perfect timing... Lesson 4 for my 4th time out.

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01-10-2013, 12:57 PM	#11 (permalink)
jdang307 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 2,063	Fuck the falling leaf. Nobody taught me falling leaf and I was doing toe side turns after about 6 hours. Two buddies I brought into the sport were taught falling leaf the very first run, and it took them a long time to shake it.

01-10-2013, 01:02 PM	#12 (permalink)
vPooch Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 12	Yeah i will just do what Snowolf suggested when I go to the mountain tomorrow

01-10-2013, 01:13 PM	#13 (permalink)
jdang307 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 2,063	Here is Snowolf talking about it Be sure to turn down the sound at the beginning

01-11-2013, 10:34 PM	#16 (permalink)
vPooch Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 12	So i went to the mountain today and tried what Snowolf was doing in the vid and it took a couple runs but it worked thanks a lot!!

01-12-2013, 12:13 AM	#17 (permalink)
BKDavid Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 3	Funny, I had the exact opposite experience of the OP. My first time boarding was toward the end of last season. Took some really tough spills but for some reason I was hooked. Anyway... decided to jump right in and got a board, boots, and bindings. Went twice already this season...and did much better than last year. However, like I said complete opposite problem of the OP... my first time out this season I found that toe-side turns came naturally to me but I couldn't get my heel-side turns going at all. When I went back the second time I had a "plan." Some of the things that worked for me was setting the heel of the binding forward a bit to keep myself from leaning back too much. I found that grabbing the side of my snow pants kept me more balanced when I got that wobbly feeling. Then an instructor who had seen me a couple times told me that I should focus more on my lead foot than my back foot and that was a huge help. By the end of the day I was going down no problem, turning and stopping when I wanted. I'm hoping to get back up on the mountain this weekend... will definitely try the Garlands.

01-14-2013, 01:51 AM	#18 (permalink)
BKDavid Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 3	I got on the mountain today as well. Started linking turns for the first time, I was able to do both tight and wide "s-turns." A lot of fun! I think one of the things that helped me the most this time out was in Wolf's video above... he stresses that you can't really start turning the board in a different direction until the board is straight and you're balanced right on the center of the board. I fell the first few times attempting the garlands, but by the end of the day I was going down the entire mountain (green) without falling. I had just started getting the hang of falling leaf (had picked it up... never took a lesson) so I think the video above was perfect timing... Lesson 4 for my 4th time out.