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Old 01-12-2013, 11:12 PM   #11 (permalink)
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[QUOTE=poutanen;573697]I actually think it's easier to learn to snowboard on a hill with some slope (most bunny hills I've seen have almost no slope). You do need some speed to be able to get up on your edges and slide...

Have you thought about body armor?!? That's not a joke by the way I ride with it all the time.[/QUOTE

Didn't know Eurocarvers wear body armour. I think you wear it to keep all the ladies at bay.
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Old 01-12-2013, 11:16 PM   #12 (permalink)
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What is the issue? Catching toe edges? Catching heel edges?

What kinda board are you riding? Cambered, rockered, some mix of both? What boots?
I think the issue is honestly my lack of coordination. I have lost about 120 pounds in the past 5 months, I am still learning my body and figuring out how it all works...if that makes any sense.

I started with Burton Moto boots that I bought, then switched to a pair of Sims Omen boots. The burton boots were a nightmare. I couldnt even finish the lesson. I had to stop and then restart the lesson a half hour later. I have a pair of Union flite bindings, and am riding an M3 board I got at big5. I will get a better board if I ever make it off the bunny hill. According to the website it is a true twin reverse camber. I am 5'3, it is a 150 board.....because according to all the websites and the people at the stores we went to I needed a longer board to accomidate the fact that I am still overweight for my height. (not for long! Still losing quickly)

When I catch an edge it is usually the front. Honestly it is the helicopter spinning that freaks me out....and those falls always hurt.
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Old 01-12-2013, 11:20 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Not to sound like the asshole but how much do you weight now? Also my wife had the same problem with helicopter spin, found out she was putting to much weight on her rear leg.
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Old 01-12-2013, 11:27 PM   #14 (permalink)
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i thought snowboarding was stupid the first few times i went. Im a big dude 6'2 260 and gravity is a bitch, in a matter of days i had a bruised tailbone and a beaten up body considered quitting but i was hooked. You just gotta stick it out, physically snowboarding was as rough as playing rugby so yea its normal to get beaten up in the beginning.
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Old 01-12-2013, 11:28 PM   #15 (permalink)
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It will get better I assure you. I am a non-adventurous chick who first saw snow and hopped on a board at the age of 30. First day I cried on the slope. Now 5 years later I am hooked, I love it.
First things you must do, absolutely if not already - helmet, wristguards and knee protectors. Not expensive, don't go all high-end and flash names, you should be able to get all that for 100 bucks or less. You'll lose the knee protectors after a while (the cheapest and best are the volleyball type ones, you don't need hard shell), I found after about 3 weeks I stopped falling on my front and tended to skid on my bum.
I am also 5'3 (130 lb) and I started on a 148cm board. Now I am on 144cm and I find it MUCH easier. Prob the board is a wee bit big but it won't be the dealbreaker, you can upgrade in a couple years. Changing to a rocker also made a big difference - it vastly reduces the edge-catching.
Finally, practise, practise, practise. Go for shorter sessions more frequently eg 3 hours as then you're not going to be too tired, tired causes mistakes and falls. Don't compare yourself to the boys - we girls are naturally more cautious, you'll improve your speed after you have got the basics down. Keep us up to date on your progress!
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Old 01-12-2013, 11:28 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Jennifer - if you ever got a chance to come to Snow Summit in Big Bear I'd meet up with you and we can share war stories.

I second the protective gear. My husband hit his head falling on the snowboard so he got a helmet, when I started snowboarded he told me I HAD to wear one. He fell and sprained his wrist that took forever to heal - so then he got wristguards and made me wear them.

When I started I fell four times in the exact same spot on my butt bone and got a hematoma - I self diagnosed myself but was not sure if it would go away by itself or if it should be drained I went to the doctor, sure enough, hematoma and she said to wear padding. So, I went out and got the padded butt shorts and that REALLY helped. I also had knee pads when started and that helped to when catching and edge and falling forward.

I started really slow - my biggest fear was I wanted to be able to be in control all the time so I spent a lot of time falling leave so that I could be in control and stop myself when needed. Everyone here feels that learning falling leaf is bad amd will impede your learning, but it made me feel safer that I was never out of control and could stop no matter what came in front of me. I fell a lot trying to go from my heelside my toeside and it was very scary for me.

Each time we came to the resort I would only board about 1- 1/2 hours before I was exhausted and would go back to our condo and try again in the afternoon for about an hour. When I felt like I was making some progress I ended on a good note! I started Thanksgiving Weekend 2010 and we came up to the resort every weekend and I worked on snowboarding for about 2-3 hours Saturday and 2-3 hours Sunday. By February I could toe/heel side down the green run pretty confidently and we took our first trip to Copper Mountain March and I loved it.

Best advise, if you are tired or exhausted - stop for the day. Otherwise, pick one thing to work on each day until you feel confident.

I also started on a cambered board and I did catch edges and fall alot. I got a flat 5% rocker board and I really progressed on that board. Getting a board like that may help you. I didn't fall as often, but you still can catch an edge if you aren't careful. I saw a kid fall in front of me and was so focused on him falling I wasn't paying attention to my own riding and caught a front edge and did a faceplant! Hang in there!
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:30 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Jennifer, sorry you had a bad day. Hang in there, at a certain point everything will click for you. You have to tune out people who say they never took a lesson, were carving by the second day, blah blah blah. While it certainly may be true, it is not the norm, and everyone progresses at their own pace anyway. And for all you know, maybe they were ruddering their back leg while going down a blue on their first day, or maybe they said that they bombed a black run but really they're an unguided missile and don't know how to link turns.

Lots of good advice already given on this thread re. protective gear, steeper runs can be easier than flat greens (and less painful when you fall, because you slide instead of landing smack on your a$$), getting your gear dialed in, etc.

I would add:
--If you can, take some martial arts classes and learn to fall properly. At least practice ragdoll-ing so your body is relaxed when it hits the ground.
--Try to ride on days after a storm when you know there is soft snow. Hardpack is not your friend--at least not for now.

Keep working at it! When everything finally clicks, snowboarding is so worth all the effort.

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So you had a lesson? What did your instructor say about your equipment? Normally if someone takes an extended amount of time to control sideslipping you can attribute it to equipment, ranging from binding setup, loose/poor fitting boots or an inappropriate snowboard.

My advice is to rent a board for a day, take a lesson and see how it goes.

Good luck, and props to you for trying to lose some weight.
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Old 01-13-2013, 01:56 AM   #19 (permalink)
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So you had a lesson? What did your instructor say about your equipment? Normally if someone takes an extended amount of time to control sideslipping you can attribute it to equipment, ranging from binding setup, loose/poor fitting boots or an inappropriate snowboard.

My advice is to rent a board for a day, take a lesson and see how it goes.

Good luck, and props to you for trying to lose some weight.
All 3 instructors I worked with thought the equipement was fine. They just told me I was taking longer to progress but was still doing well. I did rent a board for a while on my third day/lesson. It was not any better, and in fact worse in some ways.

I am not "trying" to lose weight. I am losing weight. I have lost 120 pounds so far. I am feeling great, and would seriously rather eat a bullet than go back to where I was.

I have done 3 lessons already...and am feeling like until I can master the things that were taught to me at those 3 lessons I am just burning money to have someone stand around and watch me fall. Once I can actually link some turns and make it town a hill (even a small hill) without ending up on my behind or my face I plan on spending some serious cash on private lessons to help me progress.....also to show me how to get on and off an actual ski lift. The big bunny hills just have moving carpets.
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Old 01-13-2013, 02:13 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Get off the bunny hill. Seriously. I know it's scary but my biggest falls have been on bunny hills. No slope so you catch edges easier. No slope so you fall more directly onto the ground. Fall on a black and you just keep sliding but the angle is easier on the body. Not saying go to a black. But find something with a little pitch.

Also, if your boots are not perfectly snug, when you're sliding down the bunny slope you think you've lifted your edge but with heel lift it doesn't go up as much as you think it has, and bam edge caught.
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