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Old 03-05-2013, 06:56 PM   #111 (permalink)
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Hey, switch riding is probably one of the most important riding skills.. It leads into tricks and gets you out of "tight spots" when you really have no option other than to ride switch or bail out.

I read a few posts in this thread with some crazy details on how to ride switch and I also seen people post "its just like riding regular, but backwards". I agree with the guys saying that it is just riding backwards tbh.. it is more or less learning to ride all over again but with your unnatural foot forward. Apply all that you have learned riding with your natural foot forward... to your switch riding.

I posted a video on youtube a year or so ago of me riding with a gopro at Lake Louise on opening weekend. There was only a couple greens and blues open.. so it was a great opportunity to fool around and do some switch riding. Not really a good vid clip to learn from.. but if you do a youtube search for switch riding you will find some instructional videos that might help you.

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Old 03-05-2013, 07:05 PM   #112 (permalink)
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I posted a video on youtube a year or so ago of me riding with a gopro at Lake Louise on opening weekend.
Ah, you're the gondola lap guy!?! I remember watching this vid just after we moved to Alberta. Used it to help show the GF what the runs were going to be like!

I like to do a fair bit of switch on the cat tracks or if my legs get tired. I'm goofy so the entire track leading down to the Paradise chair I usually ride switch. Gives me a chance to play around with 180s on the little rollers. Fun stuff!
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Old 03-05-2013, 09:24 PM   #113 (permalink)
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This is the exact problem I've been having recently. ......

...... as skills go, buttering has really improved my switch riding, and it's fun! I learned to butter properly this weekend and now riding switch is a lot easier because if things get too sketchy I can just swivel back into my regular direction. I'd recommend learning that if you haven't already. It also tastes good on toast!
How does buttering help your switch?

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why do i feel like everybody is staring at me while i was practicing my switch last week?
Because you are good looking.

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Hey, switch riding is probably one of the most important riding skills.. It leads into tricks and gets you out of "tight spots" when you really have no option other than to ride switch or bail out.

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I posted a video on youtube a year or so ago of me riding with a gopro at Lake Louise on opening weekend. There was only a couple greens and blues open.. so it was a great opportunity to fool around and do some switch riding. Not really a good vid clip to learn from.. but if you do a youtube search for switch riding you will find some instructional videos that might help you.
You are very good and very fast too. I notice you overtook everyone down the slope.
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Old 03-06-2013, 09:52 AM   #114 (permalink)
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How does buttering help your switch?
Because, as I stated on the exact post you quoted, it makes it easier to get in and out of my switch stance, which helps if I get out of control.
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Ah, you're the gondola lap guy!?! I remember watching this vid just after we moved to Alberta. Used it to help show the GF what the runs were going to be like!

I like to do a fair bit of switch on the cat tracks or if my legs get tired. I'm goofy so the entire track leading down to the Paradise chair I usually ride switch. Gives me a chance to play around with 180s on the little rollers. Fun stuff!
Yup that's me haha!
That was probably the most common run at Lake Louise, really doesn't do the rest of the mountain justice imo as there is such a wide variety of terrain there. Some of my favorite tree lines are at Lake Louise and when it snows.. omg.

Oh man.. I completely agree.. switch riding is a total leg saver.
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Yup that's me haha!
That was probably the most common run at Lake Louise, really doesn't do the rest of the mountain justice imo as there is such a wide variety of terrain there. Some of my favorite tree lines are at Lake Louise and when it snows.. omg.
That video was awesome. I like the way you put the GoPro upside-down on the pole and then put that behind you-that's pretty creative.

I can't stand all the GoPro videos that just show someone's torso and face as they go down a hill. They don't show anything except exactly that Especially the skiers because they stand forward which makes them wider in front of the camera so there's less to actually see. But who watches ski videos anyway?
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Old 03-06-2013, 11:00 AM   #117 (permalink)
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Also trying switch riding here, just started snowboarding 4 months ago, mainly indoor.

In the beginning switch was really frustrating me, I always turned back to my right (normal) foot. The main problem now with riding switch/regular is my posture, I always lean back or can't get my body right in the turns.

Particularly toe-side it's still difficult, but if I see how far I got in these 4 months I just think it's a matter of time, effort & building confidence with your 'wrong' leg in front.
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Yup that's me haha!
That was probably the most common run at Lake Louise, really doesn't do the rest of the mountain justice imo as there is such a wide variety of terrain there. Some of my favorite tree lines are at Lake Louise and when it snows.. omg.
Yeah, it was just good for my GF to realize she wasn't going to kill herself out here. Now I've got her running most of the same runs as me there, she did the fenceline gully the other day (double black off eagle ridge 3) and she did really well!

One of my favourites is the old liftline (don't think it's actually called that anywhere). Usually holds snow for a while, trees are spaced just right, and theres that open area near the bottom with a couple big rocks to jump off of!
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Old 03-06-2013, 11:31 AM   #119 (permalink)
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I don't know, I'm no instructor, maybe it is easier to center your stance on a directional twin, I just don't understand how that is going to make riding switch easier when a directional setback twin is already designed to ride switch, its just performance orientated for riding regular.

Extreme placement to center the stance is simply going to move your axis away from the waist of the board and put you on or in front of the flex point of the tail.

To me that sounds like it is going to make the ride worse both in switch & regular.

Now I understand your concern about performance, but skidded turns? That technique is not far away once the rider has learned to get on edge. And while it's true you'll get equal performance from the board if it's a true twin, the rider is still going to have to learn to ride the board switch efficiently before they can expect any performance from it.

Maybe one of the instructors can share the knowledge.
The way I understand how "most" directional board are supposed to work is as follows. The tip is longer and more flexy so that when you're going fast, it will absorb the bumps furthur ahead of your feet so it won't vibrate your feet as fast and make you lose stability. The tail is stiffer and shorter so that you will get more "pop" comming out of turn (carved mostly) as well as making it easier to "rudder" to a skid/stop.

So since you're a baby again when learning switch, I would say your primary goal is to build the balance and muscle memory to heel-toe-stop, etc. and shouldn't be going fast enough or carving to take advantage of the above mentioned design features. Of course, you can always mount your board backwards to begin with, but they you might make non-switch riding worse I guess. I mean, ppl do offset mounts all the time (e.g. powder days) and it doesn't "mess you up" all that much because it's not exactly at the waist.
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Old 03-07-2013, 04:39 AM   #120 (permalink)
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different strokes for different folks I guess. Maybe your right, is this how they are teaching in courses? To center the stance?

When I learned 16+ years ago we just strapped in and rode, there was no forum to discuss stuff like this, we didn't know what sidecut was. We barely new which side was which, and we certainly did not know why. Switch turned out just fine for the us without centering our stances, and back then I was riding a tapered directional with like several inches of setback with no possibility to get equal nose & tail lengths.

That said I'm teaching my friend from Peru to snowboard, he's on a directional, setback with wider nose than tail. He's learning to ride both ways, after the second day he's linking turns riding regular, I'm sure he'll be linking turns riding switch this weekend when we head up to lillehammer.

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