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Old 07-23-2008, 01:25 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Appreciate the support from those who can do the tricks to those who are trying. This is some good stuff fellas. be sure to try that on my bs 3's as well.
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Old 07-25-2008, 04:38 AM   #12 (permalink)
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i say once you have the bs 1's any grab your pretty much in. all you have to do now is when you go off the toes for the bs 1 just really turn your head around more then what you would do on a bs 1 and this overlooking would initiate your rotation better and force your shoulders to start to spin and once your shoulders are spining, the trick is there! so turn your like your life depended on it(which it really does if you eff up)anyways its not a blind landing so you should be able to spot it for a long time. Remember dont over do it or your will overrotate and it would end up being a bs 5 or even 7 but if your not ready for those they might bite you in the arse. if you feel like you keep on landing 270, i suggest you finshing off the last 90 with a shifty(thats if you find your self stuck at 270 midair) and remember when you land you want to land flat base or heavy on your heals..if you land on your toes its going to be harder to keep you from eating snow.

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Old 07-25-2008, 07:32 AM   #13 (permalink)
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alrite you make sound a lot easier hc haha but thanks for the advice. I'll definately keep that in mind when this season rolls around. Thanks for the tips really appreciate the help.
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Old 07-25-2008, 08:13 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I've been trying to nail a bs 3 for majority of last season and never officially got it.
First, what were trying them off? Knoll in hill? Small jump? Big kicker? Etc?
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Old 07-25-2008, 08:34 AM   #15 (permalink)
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well I started off just trying to do flat 3's to get the hang of it and then I moved onto like 4 or 5 foot high jumps
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well I started off just trying to do flat 3's to get the hang of it and then I moved onto like 4 or 5 foot high jumps
Ok, you took too big of a step. Here is the fool-proof way to learn b/s 360s.

(I assume everything for a regular footed rider)

(1) Find a decent roll / knoll / etc. ("jump") on a green or blue trail. Ideally, this jump will be on the right side of the trail.

(2) Before you get to the jump, carve over to the far left side of the trail.

(3) Approach the jump so that your are riding perpendicular to the trail (toe side of body facing directly up hill, heel side facing directly down hill).

(4) Hit the jump, from the side, and spin a b/s 270. The result of this, since you hit the jump at such an extreme angle, is that you will land riding straight down the hill.

NOTE: The idea is to cheat the amount you have to spin. By taking an extreme start angle, you only have to spin 270 to ride away clean (as opposed to 360 if you came at the jump straight on). In fact, you can even get away with just spinning a b/s 180, and buttering out the last 90 when you approach it from the side like this.

(5) As you get more comfortable with the 270 spin, gradually decrease the angle you approach the jump at. Eventually you will be approaching the jump head on, and spinning a full 360. Easy as pie, it just takes a little time. Use the same concept for learning f/s 360's, and switch 360's.

After you've done all this, then start moving your way up the bigger kickers and you'll have no problem.

If all this is confusing, watch the video below. It is someone doing a f/s 360 over a hip on a skateboard. However, the principle is exactly the same. Note that he actually ONLY spins a 270 over the hip. On a trail, you are creating the "hip" by approaching the jump from the side.

Of course, the other way to do all this, is going into the terrain park. If they have a actual hips set up in the park, you can just do all of this there.

YouTube - 360 over hip
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Old 07-25-2008, 09:31 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Never thought of that before haha that actually sounds a lot more logical than just going straight from flat to trying them on kickers. No one ever really shown me how to do 360s so I guess I kinda just rushed into tryin to nail 'em, so I would have another trick in my bag. Thanks for the detailed tip sedition, it makes a lot sense. Just never crossed my mind haha
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No prob. That's what we're here for...
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Old 07-25-2008, 11:49 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Thanks snowolf, Yea i've read over that post on the how to's and it was very helpful. One thing about the pre-winding tip though, should I only do that when I'm trying it on flat b/c im gettin the idea that if it's off of a jump wouldn't i be overrotating for a 360? I would see how it would work for like 540s where more momentum is needed to complete the spin, but I just wasn't too clear about that part.
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Thanks snowolf, Yea i've read over that post on the how to's and it was very helpful. One thing about the pre-winding tip though, should I only do that when I'm trying it on flat b/c im gettin the idea that if it's off of a jump wouldn't i be overrotating for a 360? I would see how it would work for like 540s where more momentum is needed to complete the spin, but I just wasn't too clear about that part.
The amount of counter-rotation needed is something you learn w/experience. It is *certainly* possible to over rotate...but, hell, that is just called a 540
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