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post #11 of 128 (permalink) Old 02-14-2013, 01:49 PM Thread Starter
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And if putting a bunch of pressure on yourself to achieve doesn't work out, you could always try saying "fuck it" and just have fun.
I always have fun, since it's seriously the most fun I've ever had on any board and I'm stoned the entire time, but I don't like being mediocre at anything so in my experiences setting goals and boarding with people much better than you is the only way to get better. at least with skateboarding it was like that. but if it gets even a little stressful I will say FUCK IT and just have fun
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sometimes the easiest answers are the ones nobody wants to hear.

just ride more.
I've prob said that 1000 times to new skaters. it's always hard to take you own advice, lol. and I'm 33 with a 5 month old, so max I can only ride twice a week.
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I always have fun, since it's seriously the most fun I've ever had on any board and I'm stoned the entire time, but I don't like being mediocre at anything so in my experiences setting goals and boarding with people much better than you is the only way to get better. at least with skateboarding it was like that. but if it gets even a little stressful I will say FUCK IT and just have fun
I completely understand, which is why I felt compelled to post this. I am notorious for putting unnecessary pressure on myself and have to sometimes stop and chill out and deliberately tell myself to relax and have fun. Fortunately, that's easy to do with this sport because it's such a goddamn good time.

For what it's worth, when I try to handle steeps (which I am a novice at), I find that simply side-slipping makes it manageable to deal with, especially if you're having a hard time just getting up the nerve to go down it. But that gets boring and I usually find the most success when I simply lean down the hill and turn like I do on blues, just more aggressively. Mentally, it's tough to do since your instinct is to be more cautious; that is exactly where I struggle as well.

Edit: I too am in my early 30's with three small kids and am a fairly new rider. There is a certain amount of cautiousness that impedes my riding to an extent as a result of this. But whatever, it's a shit ton of fun!

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I completely understand, which is why I felt compelled to post this. I am notorious for putting unnecessary pressure on myself and have to sometimes stop and chill out and deliberately tell myself to relax and have fun. Fortunately, that's easy to do with this sport because it's such a goddamn good time.

For what it's worth, when I try to handle steeps (which I am a novice at), I find that simply side-slipping makes it manageable to deal with, especially if you're having a hard time just getting up the nerve to go down it. But that gets boring and I usually find the most success when I simply lean down the hill and turn like I do on blues, just more aggressively. Mentally, it's tough to do since your instinct is to be more cautious; that is exactly where I struggle as well.

Edit: I too am in my early 30's with three small kids and am a fairly new rider. There is a certain amount of cautiousness that impedes my riding to an extent as a result of this. But whatever, it's a shit ton of fun!
ya that's why I quit DH skateboarding, I'm a dad now and couldn't justify it anymore
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stickz, if you like to set yourself goals, try going to a less steep slope but still a little steep and see if you can make turns within a 3m corridor. Focus on getting dynamic as Snowolf says. Notice how the lower you get in between turns, the more it will control your speed and the quicker you will then turn as you stand tall again in the fall line. Do this without trying to jerk the board around, notice how just this up and down leg movement will do most of the work for you. Once you can do it with with good rhythm, see how narrow a corridor you can stay within.

Once you can do that, when you take it to the steeps it's the same thing. Regardless if you have a wider space to play with, you'll be able to ride down the fall line while controlling your speed and holding an edge. The more dynamic you get, the more you set a firm edge and at an angle will be keeping the speed off. Then the quicker the turn will be through the fall line (without jerking the board) and the less speed you pick up.
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stickz, if you like to set yourself goals, try going to a less steep slope but still a little steep and see if you can make turns within a 3m corridor. Focus on getting dynamic as Snowolf says. Notice how the lower you get in between turns, the more it will control your speed and the quicker you will then turn as you stand tall again in the fall line. Do this without trying to jerk the board around, notice how just this up and down leg movement will do most of the work for you. Once you can do it with with good rhythm, see how narrow a corridor you can stay within.

Once you can do that, when you take it to the steeps it's the same thing. Regardless if you have a wider space to play with, you'll be able to ride down the fall line while controlling your speed and holding an edge. The more dynamic you get, the more you set a firm edge and at an angle will be keeping the speed off. Then the quicker the turn will be through the fall line (without jerking the board) and the less speed you pick up.
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The only concern I have while snowboarding and skateboarding is to have fun. There is enough pressure with school/work, etc, I do not need that while boarding. For me it seems that having fun makes for natural progression.

Setting goals does not work very well for me because it feels like a chore.

I started going on steeper runs when the greens or blues started to get somewhat boring, meaning my mind/body were ready for steeper terrain.
I wanted to have more fun and more fun was to be had at steeper terrain.

I do not know the technical terms (dynamic, etc), I just started going on steeper terrain until I felt comfortable riding it. Since I knew I was going to be somewhat slow on steeper terrain at the beginning, I kept to either the left or right of the run, usually the one with more snow, that way I was not inconveniencing the faster riders going in the middle. Also since I was not in the middle I could stop on the side of the run away from all the traffic if a felt like I could not handle anymore turns.

Stickz: Skateboarding is so much in the summer. You can always look forward to skate/snowboard with your kids. I see tons of dads skating with their kids at my local park.
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both actually. that's exactly how it felt.
I had the same exact issues. My problems were that I wasn't turning my shoulder and knee enough.
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Improving your technique so that you can easily ride well down a 45-50 degree pitch with steeze IS fun....

Sideslipping a technical steep is a crime against humanity; if you can`t turn on on it, stay off of it and dont scrape all the of the good snow off of the hill and ruin it for others.
lol hopefully my other good deeds make up for it...
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Improving your technique so that you can easily ride well down a 45-50 degree pitch with steeze IS fun....

Sideslipping a technical steep is a crime against humanity; if you can`t turn on on it, stay off of it and dont scrape all the of the good snow off of the hill and ruin it for others.
I only meant to say that when I venture onto a steep, I merely start the first downward movement using a sideslip just to get over my fear and commit to it. I then have more success (and fun) when I start turning aggressively. The sideslip for me is just to overcome my initial mental barrier (fear). It doesn't last but for 10-15 seconds or so. I didn't articulate that well in my previous reply.
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