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Old 02-14-2013, 10:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Questions about boots/toe turning

I'm sure "toe turning" is not the correct phrase, but give me a break I'm the only one I know who boards and I've been out of the game a while hehe.

Anyways I have a question for those of you who know way more than me. First a little background: I was born with club feet. Long story short (since I have to explain this to people almost once a day it seems) when ever I'm on my feet I'm in pain. The longer I'm up the more pain, etc. BUT I love boarding so I kind of just push through it as best I can. Now for the question:

When ever I'm turning toe side (I'm thinking the correct term is front side turning?) it causes SEVERE pain. I know a portion of it is due to my issue, but I don't think that's the only reason. I've watched videos and such and the common phrasing I'm hearing is when turning frontside, you should be really only using your toes. As one video says "pretend like you're squishing grapes under your toes." However when I'm out there I feel like I have to stand completely on my toes to get the board to move that direction. I can even feel my heels come up. Which also brings me to my other point, I can feel a lot of movement of my feet in my boots/board. Shouldn't everything be completely locked/stiff?

Right now I'm actually using boots I "borrowed" from one of the hills I went to. I bought my own pair two years ago but I learned quickly they were WAY too tight. To the point of cutting off circulation, that plus my issue was not so much fun. The ones I'm using now are much more worn in (obviously) and no issues with circulation. But I think they are still too big, which is surprising since they are 1.5 sizes smaller than my shoes and 2 sizes smaller than my other boots. They are also the twist cord system (non laces) so my toe area never really gets as tight as my ankles.
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Old 02-14-2013, 11:22 AM   #2 (permalink)
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You need to get yourself proper fitting boots! Here's a sticky on proper boot fitting DIY.

The main thing is to find boots as close to what you need as possible, and then make minor adjustments to make them work perfectly. I'm not sure exactly how that will work, but there may be a boot fitter out there that specializes in adapting boots for club feet?!?
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Old 02-14-2013, 11:48 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I had a hard time understanding the pressing the toes down to turn toeside...its one way of explaining it...but.

Other explinations are: Torsional twist, or steering with the front knee, or big toe little toe pressure of the front foot....its all really talking about the same thing.

Another thing that helps is adjusting your leverage points of your bindings...the higher up the ankle strap is on your boot the more leverage you have going toeside...And the more forward lean of the highback the more leverage you have going heelside.
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Old 02-14-2013, 12:02 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I actually think that using your feet to turn causes undue pressure on all those little muscles, and riding that way used to cause me no end of pain. Instead, focus on using your shins pressing into the tongue of your boot for toeside turns, while you let your feet just relax. Let your legs do the work while your boots and bindings do their jobs.
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Old 02-14-2013, 02:01 PM   #5 (permalink)
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^ this. Instead of pretending to squish things under your toes, try imagining you are trying to squish banana with your shins. You will need to ensure your posture is slightly crouched in and balanced athletic position with you knees slightly bent.

Properly fitting boots make all the difference as they meant that movements are transmitted smoothly and positively to the board and stop the temptation to to try and move your feet independently of the boot (twisting, toe scrunching etc).
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