board chatter

[wernersl]

Originally Posted by xsea

So today at stevens, there was some pretty nice pow.

My board kept getting stuck in the snow and chatter was still a huge problem

So is it my riding that is sucking or the board?

Not saying it's your board but my buddy has a CC and no problems in pow or high speed chatter.

[xsea]

Originally Posted by wernersl

Not saying it's your board but my buddy has a CC and no problems in pow or high speed chatter.

dang i guess i need to improve my technique then.

[hktrdr]

Originally Posted by SinkHole

I had one when I bought into the rocker craze, and noticed the same thing. Those boards love to carve so just carve the shit out of it and that will eliminate a lot of the chatter.

Erm, nope.

[ig88]

Originally Posted by Extremo

It's a symptom of rocker boards. Without increased dampening tech typically found in higher end boards the tips will chatter like crazy. The carbon credit is your run of the mill basic rocker.

I thought if the boards were made stiffer then chatter would reduce. I did not know rocker boards were more prone to this chatter and anything about the dampening tech. Any links to direct me to read up a little bit more on this dampening tech?

Care to name a few of the higher end rocker boards that have this dampening tech?

Thanks.

[ig88]

Thanks Wolfie for the succinct but detailed elaboration. I see ...... so that's what HD stands for. Now I have a much better understanding about stiffness and dampness. I am very surprised that apparently only Neversummer has a tech that addresses the problem. I will go back and read up more reviews on Neversummer especially those that are HD's.

[poutanen]

Originally Posted by ig88

I am very surprised that apparently only Neversummer has a tech that addresses the problem. I will go back and read up more reviews on Neversummer especially those that are HD's.

Snowolf was just mentioning Neversummers particular name for it... Lots of boards have some sort of dampening material added in. Prior uses a "rubber foil" for dampening.

[stillz]

Are you balanced and centered over your board? I recently discovered and corrected some chatter during heelside turns while riding switch on steeper terrain. I fixed it by riding with my body a little further downhill than before. I really didn't think I was leaning up the hill. I'm an instructor, I don't lean uphill. Beginners do that. Well, I was doing it too. I also had some icy conditions show me that I lean into my turns more than I thought.

[Blazin' Raisin]

Originally Posted by stillz

Are you balanced and centered over your board? I recently discovered and corrected some chatter during heelside turns while riding switch on steeper terrain. I fixed it by riding with my body a little further downhill than before. I really didn't think I was leaning up the hill. I'm an instructor, I don't lean uphill. Beginners do that. Well, I was doing it too. I also had some icy conditions show me that I lean into my turns more than I thought.

Two questions -1) what exactly is chatter? I think I know, but haven't actually seen/heard a definition. And 2) isn't it the idea to lean into the turn? I feel like I'm balanced but shift to 60/40 or 70/30 lead foot to make a turn.

Just also wanted to thank all you teacher here in this forum - you've brought me light years!

[kaborkian]

Chatter is the nose and/or tail of a board rhythmically slapping (that's what she said...) the snow as you ride, generally happens at speed while riding flat based.

The phenomenon is usually a resonance in the board due to the combination of stiffness and dampening, mostly a soft board with little or no dampening.

Take a spork, hold the bid end, and flip the small end with your other hand. It will vibrate. Same thing.

Drive a car with worn out shocks and hit a speed bump, same thing.

[poutanen]

Originally Posted by kaborkian

Chatter is the nose and/or tail of a board rhythmically slapping (that's what she said...) the snow as you ride, generally happens at speed while riding flat based.

Uhhhh what? I don't know if I've ever felt chatter while flatbasing.

It happens to me on my heelside when I'm trying to do a good solid carve on relatively hardpacked groomers. Instead of biting and carving, the board will slightly lose grip and "chatter" sideways over the surface. It's not a smooth skidded turn, it's a failed attempt at a proper carve with no skidding.

For me the fix was to bend my knees more on my heelside. Don't know why it worked, but it did!