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correct...and it would be difficult to have each student fill out forms that ask can you complete dynamic skidded turns when a typical rider has no clue what dynamic means. which is why each resort comes up w/ a simple version of beginner, inter and advanced rider by basic guidelines when determining the respective student's abilities.
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What I was asking about was something like this, but maybe standardized by AASI/CASI. This chart was taken from Northstar--it says "child" but maybe also applies to adults?--which I take with a grain of salt as it seems IMHO that Northstar tends to inflate ability because they're all about the feel-good experience.

Snowboard Levels

0 - Does not participate in this sport.

1 - FIRST TIME SNOWBOARDER
Your child has never snowboarded before.
GOAL: Sideslip with direction change on the heel side or toe side.

2 - NOVICE
Your child has snowboarded once or twice and can sideslip on toe side or heel side.
GOAL: Beginning falling leaf.

3 - CAUTIOUS NOVICE I
Your child can perform a falling leaf in both directions.
GOAL: To make basic toe and heel side turns.

4 - CAUTIOUS NOVICE II
Your child can turn in both directions with confidence and speed control.
GOAL: To make various sizes of turns on Blue runs.

5 - CONFIDENT NOVICE
Your child can link turns with less skidding and increased speed.
GOAL: Improve confidence on Blue runs and/or beginning jumps/tricks.

6 - INTERMEDIATE
Your child is confident on intermediate terrain and is linking turns consistently with precision.
GOAL: Work on varying the radius of turns on Blue runs in preparation for moving to Black runs and/or improved confidence with jumps/tricks.

7 - CONFIDENT INTERMEDIATE
Your child can ride all Blue runs, some groomed Black runs and feel confident on smaller jumps.
GOAL: Feel more confident on Black runs and on varied terrain. Possible introduction to half pipe, parks, and/or learn some basic air maneuvers.

8 - ADVANCED
Your child snowboards Black runs but has difficulty riding them consistently with style and rhythm. Can do basic tricks and ride the half-pipe.
GOAL: To ride comfortably in terrain parks, on difficult terrain features and all mountain riding.

9 - ADVANCED/EXPERT
Your child enjoys the challenges of an all mountain experience and terrain.
GOAL: To efficiently ride bumps, powder, steeps and terrain by learning to adapt to all situations and conditions.
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Thanks for all your feedback! I think I'll try and save up for a private lesson. It will be a lot more money, but hopefully worth it.
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My suggestion would be to ask someone at the school when the least people are booked for a group lesson. I did that in Whistler and booked a one day group lesson for my girlfriend which ended up being a private lesson for the price of a group lesson. Chances for that are better during the week, of course.
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I recently took a group Intermediate lesson at Heavenly last week. It was just me and one other student. The other student picked it up quickly and was riding down blues linking turns on her 4th day. Funny thing is she was from Florida and it was really her 4th day seeing snow on a mountain.

I was lucky enough that there was just two of us and the other instructor was able to give me some more specific exercises to do while he spoke to the other student. I believe heavenly's intermediate is able to link turns and able to ride green/blue. The advanced class is blue/green. His goal was to have us doing 180s by the end of the half day session. Unfortunately my legs didn't make it to the end of the 2.5 hour session. I was riding powder after the big storm the day before and my legs just didn't wanna agree with me for the afternoon session.

I believe Kirkwood splits up their intermediate in levels 2-4 which are comfortable linking turns and on green runs and 5-6 are blue runs who are looking to get more dynamic and into park.

I would try getting in a small class or just shell out the cash for a private lesson to get the most 1:1 instruction. Also ask around on who people would recommend if that's possible.
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Granted this was 10 years ago (holy smokes time flies), but when my friend and I signed up for intermediate group lessons at Killington, we were the only ones. This happened to us on 3 different occasions, the only times we signed up for intermediate lessons. There were more folks in the group that went to the park, and there were more beginner intermediate folks, but our group was just us *shrug*.
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