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Atoxa 02-17-2013 05:59 PM

Quick Question...
 
Hey, tomorrow I'm going to be working on 360s, and Im wondering when I first start working on them whether or not I should go BS or FS. I'm very comfortable with my FS 180, I'm not too comfortable with BS 180s yet. The jump im hitting is probably a 10 fter, unfortunately no pow landing but hey, theres like never any snow around here. :thumbsdown:

tokyo_dom 02-17-2013 10:13 PM

My first 360 was FS. I started preparing for them by hitting small features off to the side of runs at slow speed, getting used to what it was like if i landed at 270 (so i know to turn out the last bit of the spin etc), then just bit the bullet on a small kicker. May not have been the cleanest 360 but it was easier than i was expecting

24WERD 02-17-2013 10:35 PM

bs 360 is easier b/c your not landing blind.

get the 180 bs down first.

go read up on carving platform for 360 off jumps snowboard addiciton video youtube.

or Jed's blog snomie.com

learn to do 360 on flat ground going across the slope first then take it to the air.

Atoxa 02-17-2013 10:47 PM

I'll try some BS 180s first. So you are going up on your toe edge and carving it out... the other day I tried a Front 3 and made it all the way to 270, but banged my knees right on an icy knuckle....

Didn't feel too great, but I'll try it again.

What do you mean, 360 on flat slope? If you mean just a heli spin, I can do that, but...

tokyo_dom 02-17-2013 11:27 PM

Landing blind was worry for me at first too, but i found that even if i did land at 270, i landed on my toes, letting me turn the rest of the way out without catching an edge. Definitely not a pro, and probably not qualified to answer your questions, but as someone who just got the 360s down i thought i would give my experiences.

IdahoFreshies 02-18-2013 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atoxa (Post 736634)
I'll try some BS 180s first. So you are going up on your toe edge and carving it out... the other day I tried a Front 3 and made it all the way to 270, but banged my knees right on an icy knuckle....

Didn't feel too great, but I'll try it again.

What do you mean, 360 on flat slope? If you mean just a heli spin, I can do that, but...

Before you go out ill try to give you some tips of things I have to work on to fix my 3s because they are kicking my fucking ass. First off, I learned 180s wrong, i would whip my board around under me instead of rotate my head and upper body...this causes a lot of problems jumping onto rails and boxes and can throw off my commitment on jumps. So first and foremost (if FS is easier like it was for me start working on that) practice good 180s where you pop, bring your board up to you with your knees bent and rotate your head. Un learning the wrong way to spin is being a bitch for me. At home not strapped in or anything practice jumping up and spinning the 3 while keeping your knees bent up to you (so you aren't straight legged). Then when you take these to the jump that will hopefully get you comfortable with a good pop and a clean rotation. Speaking of pop it will be very important, you dont need a ton, but to do tricks off jumps and get good air you need to pop, so really get comfy with a good control pop off the jumps before you start spinning. Through trying 3s the last week I have really figured out what im doing wrong but just cant dial them in and clean them up to the level I want, and im going to attribute some of my problem to not learning the basics correctly, so while you might want to jump head first into spins dial that shit back and work on good pops with good straight airs and grabs to control your self in the air. It would probably do good to spend a day just working on good air control, learning grabs, and doing 1s

Quote:

Originally Posted by 24WERD (Post 736562)
bs 360 is easier b/c your not landing blind. Not necessarily, everyone is different and are comfortable going different ways

get the 180 bs down first.

go read up on carving platform for 360 off jumps snowboard addiciton video youtube.

or Jed's blog snomie.com

learn to do 360 on flat ground going across the slope first then take it to the air.


Atoxa 02-18-2013 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IdahoFreshies (Post 736882)
Before you go out ill try to give you some tips of things I have to work on to fix my 3s because they are kicking my fucking ass. First off, I learned 180s wrong, i would whip my board around under me instead of rotate my head and upper body...this causes a lot of problems jumping onto rails and boxes and can throw off my commitment on jumps. So first and foremost (if FS is easier like it was for me start working on that) practice good 180s where you pop, bring your board up to you with your knees bent and rotate your head. Un learning the wrong way to spin is being a bitch for me. At home not strapped in or anything practice jumping up and spinning the 3 while keeping your knees bent up to you (so you aren't straight legged). Then when you take these to the jump that will hopefully get you comfortable with a good pop and a clean rotation. Speaking of pop it will be very important, you dont need a ton, but to do tricks off jumps and get good air you need to pop, so really get comfy with a good control pop off the jumps before you start spinning. Through trying 3s the last week I have really figured out what im doing wrong but just cant dial them in and clean them up to the level I want, and im going to attribute some of my problem to not learning the basics correctly, so while you might want to jump head first into spins dial that shit back and work on good pops with good straight airs and grabs to control your self in the air. It would probably do good to spend a day just working on good air control, learning grabs, and doing 1s

I appreciate the tips! Right now I've got a lot of my grabs pretty much down, I get a little scared when I try them off the 25 footer, but on the little 10 footer I can do an Indie (Grabbing toeedge middle of board, right?), grab the front of my board and do a method (Grabbing behind you, I usually grab right in front of the front binding).

Theres a little jump I found that shoots you right up onto the trail, and I practice my 1s on there. On a FS 180, I usually spin my body and head and then let my board follow, and I usually land it with some time to spare. Thanks for the tips, I'll try to throw down a clean 3 on the slopes today!

IdahoFreshies 02-19-2013 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atoxa (Post 737473)
I appreciate the tips! Right now I've got a lot of my grabs pretty much down, I get a little scared when I try them off the 25 footer, but on the little 10 footer I can do an Indie (Grabbing toeedge middle of board, right?), grab the front of my board and do a method (Grabbing behind you, I usually grab right in front of the front binding).

Theres a little jump I found that shoots you right up onto the trail, and I practice my 1s on there. On a FS 180, I usually spin my body and head and then let my board follow, and I usually land it with some time to spare. Thanks for the tips, I'll try to throw down a clean 3 on the slopes today!

good luck with it!

My park just got a jump line in, and I couldn't do as much as I wanted because my wrist was all fucked up and didn't want to injure it more, so I spent most of the day just doing straight airs and 1s at the end of the day, I couldn't even really grab because my right hand just couldn't grip anything. So hopefully this week i can spend enough time on the first two small jumps (like 10 and 15) and practice those 3s on something nice and consistent.

Atoxa 02-19-2013 09:29 AM

I actually didn't work on any 3s yesterday, since I took a pretty hard fall on a 30 fter early in the day and took it easy for the rest, just working on nailing down some tricks I already knew. I'll try to do it this fri/sat

bushwakhan 02-20-2013 03:41 PM

ouch. im still working on getting over the knuckle confidently on 5 footers haha. so more power to you. good luck.


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