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Old 02-24-2013, 12:33 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I like soft stuff with more bounce to them.
Dont like the feeling of being ultra stiff at high speeds feeling every flipping bump that could send me flying. I think of my bindings/boots as shock absorbers, i stay loose and let it rip.
But that's not how it really works

I think you've got it backwards

I can haul ass, & I'm sure others around here can as well.

You can't haul ass in noodles, you'd tweak your ankles in under 5 min.

I too, think of my boots as shock absorbers.

With my stiff ass boots, I can do big drops & the boots will absorb the impact.


15 or so years ago, I bought a brand new pair of Airwalk Extremes.
@ the time they were the stiffest boot out there.
The tongue ripped out & the store didn't have the same boot.

The cock suckers wouldn't give me my money back only store credit.
They were $300, but I didn't have another $300 to spend somewhere else.
So I was forced to pick from the garbage they had left.

The only boot they had in my size was the Airwalk Advantage.
With a seasons pass going to waste, I didn't really have a choice.

Picked those & had $150 credit left.

The first day I used them, I blew out my ankle.

Done for the season.


Soft boots are for rookies


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Old 02-24-2013, 12:37 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Maybe i was exaggerating just a bit ahaha. I wouldnt classify my gear as noodles.
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:52 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Well, today might be your lucky day?

I have a pair of 32 Juhyo's in a size 9

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Man! I wish I saw you post that first, as soon as I saw the consensus here that stiff boots were next I booked it to get a new pair! I picked up a pair of DC Ceptors. I'm glad I posted this thread though - before this I had my eye on a pair of Rome Targas with the same noodle boot.

Thanks for everything you have posted, everyone! I hope in time I will find the exact build I like in time (I started this season) but I know I like responsiveness and precision, and the move up from my noodle Forum to mid-stiff Machete was amazing. I know that I like the precision of camber compared to rocker, and that's actually one thing I regret about getting the Machete. If these new boots end up being too stiff maybe I'll break them in a bit using my hands haha.
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Old 02-25-2013, 02:08 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I have an RC with flux tt30 bindings, love it. So fun /so much play in between carves, feels really smooth when you start getting your legs into it.
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Old 02-25-2013, 04:23 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I agree. I find that I prefer to use good body movements to achieve desired board performance rather than try to rely on my equipment and then find it limits my ability to have fun doing natural freestyle or take a lap through the park after I just dropped a technical steep chute. A good rider can get the desired performance out of mid flex gear.

Some people prefer a different feel and like the extra support that stiffness provides and that is fine but snowboarding is not a one size fits all activity. To say that mid flex gear does not perform well for advanced riding is incorrect. People should choose the gear that best matches their riding style.
Closet hard booter eh? I knew it Just fuckin' wit chya.
I'm probably going to try it for the first time this week
Kinda excited to rail some extreme carves.

I don't disagree that mid flex gear will perform well for advanced riding.
But boots are THE one thing that will enable you to go LARGE

You just can't fly through the air 30 or 50 feet without them.
In fairy tale land where the transition of every landing is so smooth you don't feel it, Maybe

But I'd constantly have shit in my drawers, knowing there is a chance that some unforeseen event could cause my boot to fold in half, with my foot in it.
Maybe the odd time, but 9 out of 10 times your ankles are gonna explode


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Old 02-25-2013, 11:44 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Man! I wish I saw you post that first, as soon as I saw the consensus here that stiff boots were next I booked it to get a new pair! I picked up a pair of DC Ceptors. I'm glad I posted this thread though - before this I had my eye on a pair of Rome Targas with the same noodle boot.

Thanks for everything you have posted, everyone! I hope in time I will find the exact build I like in time (I started this season) but I know I like responsiveness and precision, and the move up from my noodle Forum to mid-stiff Machete was amazing. I know that I like the precision of camber compared to rocker, and that's actually one thing I regret about getting the Machete. If these new boots end up being too stiff maybe I'll break them in a bit using my hands haha.
Well, depending on where you got them & how much?

Maybe you can return them & save some money?

I like money.


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Old 02-26-2013, 02:12 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I'm with Snowolf on this one... I used to be all about the stiffest gear I could find until I realized that I was actually restricting my mobility more than increasing my responsiveness. Now I ride a mid-stiff NS Legacy with Mid-Stiff K2 Ever bindings and Mid-Stiff Northwave Decade's. I like the response of the stiffer binding though it's a far cry from my days of Riding Ride SPi's and CAD's, but I prefer the feel of being able to properly flex my feet and ankles rather than using body lean to create board leverage. I do think there's definitely a place for everything though and you should ride what is most comfortable for you. That in the end is all that really matters. With all the options out there now people get overwhelmed by the tech and hype that they go out and drop serious cash on gear only to find they hate it and then have to go out and buy more gear and spend more dough. It's not how much it costs or how hyped it is etc. it about what feels right to you especially when it comes to boots.
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Old 02-26-2013, 02:37 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I was going to post here but Snowolf already said everything I wanted to say.

but I will anyways.

I've been riding for 20+ years on all terrain on all kinds of boards, boots and binding configurations that have come and gone. I ride soft to mid soft gear because I prefer it, not just for park but for all riding. I just don't like the feel of stiff gear and I do not feel this holds me back in any way, nor do I believe stiffness of gear is in any way related to skill level or quality.
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:08 PM   #19 (permalink)
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i enjoyed the discussion here, especially input from experienced riders that have tried so much variation of gear of their years of riding... (i may have 10+ years of riding, but it's on the same gear so i have no way to compare... :/ )
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I'm going to free ride on some RK-30s just becaues of this thread
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