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Old 03-12-2013, 11:09 AM   #21 (permalink)
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That's a good thing in my book. It teaches you to be less sloppy in your technique.
Yes but he made it sound like it was because of the board. Ofcourse it will help you in focussing more
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Old 03-12-2013, 11:32 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Although laundry boy (because of his ironing board) is completely wrong: It is more 99% rider and 1% equipment
I strongly disagree with that in the context of the OP. While an excellent rider can make anything work, in most sports throwing money at the problem can be quite helpful (snowboarding is no different) - especially if you have more money than time.

There is a massive difference in edge hold on hardpack between my boards (I sharpen edges every couple of days). If I don't have enough traction, I'm not having fun.
Sorry, but no. The OP is "a beginner maybe close to intermediate" and "can't hold [his] edge very well on steep terrain." That is a technique issue and throwing money at it well not solve the problem - while it might alleviate the symptoms, it will not address the underlying problem.

When used with proper technique pretty much any decent snowboard will have perfectly sufficient edge hold for intermediate riding.
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Old 03-12-2013, 11:47 AM   #23 (permalink)
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When used with proper technique pretty much any decent snowboard will have perfectly sufficient edge hold for intermediate riding.
Even the unsharpened edge of a burton clash on pure ice?

Anyway, I am a snowboard addict so I am going every weekend. My technique will improve over time. Im sure of it. I will have my wife record me next time I go down the hill and watch the video that way i can look at ways to improve my technique.

Until then Upon further research and emailing some companies. I think I have my board decisions down to 3. (There is no where to demo around here so I just have to pull the trigger on one and live with it for a season).

Lib Tech Skate Banana(although I heard it is mostly park which im not doing I heard it does well on ice).
Lib Tech TRS (less forgiving than the banana, but better for freeriding which is what im doing?)
Burton Custom Flying V.

The Advice on this forum has been great so far and thanks again. Any final suggestions on which board would be great because I am going to pull the trigger on one of the 2013 sales so I can ride one before the season ends.
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Old 03-13-2013, 03:57 PM   #24 (permalink)
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What is G.A.S. ?
Gear Acquisition Syndrome... All it takes is a taste any you'll get the sickness

G.A.S. Cost me a fortune in camera gear last year...
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Old 03-13-2013, 06:15 PM   #25 (permalink)
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G.A.S. Cost me a fortune in camera gear last year...
Yeah that scares me. I've got a Canon EOS 300D (The original rebel) and some decent lenses, so I've been meaning to grab a used 5D Mark I or II... But then I figure I'll want more lenses, battery grips, etc. etc. etc. Where does it stop?
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Old 03-13-2013, 06:22 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Yeah that scares me. I've got a Canon EOS 300D (The original rebel) and some decent lenses, so I've been meaning to grab a used 5D Mark I or II... But then I figure I'll want more lenses, battery grips, etc. etc. etc. Where does it stop?
That's the thing it never stops! At least boarding this season has been a nice distraction from buying camera gear... That said I do have new bindings in the mail...
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Old 03-13-2013, 06:43 PM   #27 (permalink)
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So I have been boarding for about 25-30 hours total. I can go down blacks some with moguls. I go down the hills typically with dynamic skidded turns. I am riding a Burton Clash. I am noticing that I can't hold my edge very well on steep terrain. And I sometimes catch an edge when riding flat or getting lazy. You could say I am still a beginner maybe close to intermediate. After tracking my speeds on my android app I have a sustained speed of about 25mph and high speeds of 35 mph. I don't ride in the park and I am east coast so there is no powder.

Money isn't an issue. But I want to know is it too early for me to upgrade?

I have been doing research and it sounds like a freeride/all mountain would be good? Or is it too early for me to be upgrading to that stiff of a board?

The snowboard shops in my area the people just seem to BS and try to sell me the boards they have on hand so I need some professional(unbiased) advice.
East Coast Clash rider here. This is my 3rd season, have no problems with blacks and started riding doubles recently. My Ski tracks app for my iphone has me topped out at 48.8 mph and I generally ride in the mid 30's.

I haven't caught an edge this season (knocks on wood) and haven't lost an edge on ice, although I do panic and slow down. I plan on upgrading to a Burton Custom this spring and just trying to decide if I want Cartels with (2014) or without (2013) the hinge.

Edit: I demoed the Custom with the Cartels and really liked it.

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Old 03-13-2013, 11:22 PM   #28 (permalink)
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i say go for it. the libtech TRS is a great board which will last you a long time.

i started on a wide powder board and after my first season got an elan vertigo, which is as stiff as it gets and for advanced riders. sure it punished me. but i learned to carve.

i've recently switched down (ok 5 years in now) to a libtech trs and am amazed at just how much fun i can have hitting everything on the mountain... an all-round mountain board is great for many levels.
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really, if $ is no problem, get a series of private lessons from a good instructor and ask them if its time to up grade and to what.

yes your technique will improve over time....but how much time...good instruction can make the time shorter.

at you level of time on the hill, i doubt that you have developed a preference of your style or type of riding....and the hill...is very important and a huge influence (where do you ride?) that you ride has alot to do with that....thus your preference will determine the board...btw freeride, freestyle, park, jib, all mt fr, all mt fs, big mtn fr, big mt fs, twin, directional twin, camber, rocker, cam rock, shovel nose, pintail, rock/flat/cam, c2 vs c3, different types of mag, differences in sidecut and radius...etc. get familar with the different design tech...they are made for doing different things in different conditions. If you get a board...get one that is going to take you to your preference assuming you have the hill for it.

IMHO at this point, invest in more time on the hill and lessons

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Lib Tech Skate Banana(although I heard it is mostly park which im not doing I heard it does well on ice).
Lib Tech TRS (less forgiving than the banana, but better for freeriding which is what im doing?)
Burton Custom Flying V.
Assuming you want to do primarily groomers, I wouldn't go with a pure rocker board.

The Burton Custom Flying V doesn't have a good reputation for edge hold on hard pack.

So from your list, I would take the TRS.

If you want to look for more boards, here are a ton of reviews:
Snowboard Reviews | The Good Ride
Make sure to look at the 'In Depth Reviews' and check out the review criteria at:
About The Good Ride Reviews | The Good Ride
In particular, turn initiation should be 'easy' and edge hold 'great' to 'excellent'.
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