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Old 03-11-2013, 02:08 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Well that makes senses if it's to correct riding in the back seat. That part of the lesson had me do front weight biase, then center and finally rear biases only for all parts of the turn just to see how it feels.

As for the wipering. Someone else more experienced will have to chime in. As far as how I've been taught, it's ok to have some washout on turns depending on conditions as long as it still follows the turn movement. No forcing a turn and never ok to rudder unless on pow. The only exception was learning how to slash on a natural sidewall.
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Old 03-11-2013, 03:12 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Old dog silly question. If you are still trying to develop solid riding skill at this point. Why are you in the mogul field??? Not trying to start something just wondering why your complicating your learning with some very advanced riding. I understand pushing yourself and riding new terrain, but this may be at the far extreme of that choice.

Good for you for trying but still wondering why at this point
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It's not like I can barely link turns...

I'm making dynamic turns on blues and popping off rollers and wind lips. What else should I be doing?

I have zero interest in park (not that we have one), so that leaves steeps and trees. I've done a few tree runs and it isn't pretty. So I figure moguls is the best way to practice control that could apply to trees or whatever.

When I say I'm "in the back seat" I mean on steeps in moguls and trees. I'm fine (if not steezy) on the groomers. I can navigate steep blue moguls, it's just ugly as hell.

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Old dog silly question. If you are still trying to develop solid riding skill at this point. Why are you in the mogul field??? Not trying to start something just wondering why your complicating your learning with some very advanced riding. I understand pushing yourself and riding new terrain, but this may be at the far extreme of that choice.

Good for you for trying but still wondering why at this point
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May not be proper technique, but what's working very well for me when tree riding is to keep my weight very forward so that the tail is really loose. I then "swish" the tail back and forth to brake through a rutted tree path.
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The whole grabbing thing is new to me and must be a CASI thing.
maybe its oldschool, i remember an instructor having us do them when i was in lessons in the late 90's "rail grab carves" i think i got a pin . helps you get really low and compact while in the turn and hold a long carve.

let the board accelerate down the fall line
crouch down as you roll up on an edge
grab the rail between the bindings (indy front side, melon back side)
put your opposing hand on the snow to keep your balance
stand up as you come out of the turn

linking these toe and heel down a run will make anyone feel euro
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Add throwing you arm ahead of your turn and that's what he was trying to get me to do... I was really struggling though. I lack the confidence to really lean downhill in a mogul field. Nothing some practice and a couple beers won't fix...

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May not be proper technique, but what's working very well for me when tree riding is to keep my weight very forward so that the tail is really loose. I then "swish" the tail back and forth to brake through a rutted tree path.
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May not be proper technique, but what's working very well for me when tree riding is to keep my weight very forward so that the tail is really loose. I then "swish" the tail back and forth to brake through a rutted tree path.
Why is this improper?
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Why is this improper?
Don't know if it is or it isn't, actually. I just know it works for me. I'm not a certified instructor by any means, so I'm always a little nervous about handing out advice.
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Don't know if it is or it isn't, actually. I just know it works for me. I'm not a certified instructor by any means, so I'm always a little nervous about handing out advice.
Oh, ok. I'm really curious about this. I'm just getting started and learning at the moment, so I'd like to hear a good reason for why it's bad.


A little bump for my previous question:

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Generally, both organizations stress not "wipering" or "ruddering" the tail of the board as this is bad form and can cause some real difficulties in riding. Either initiate with the front foot through torsional twist as in skidding, or use tilt with both feet simultaneously as in carving. Avoid getting into the habit of "wipering".
Can anyone explain a little bit why wipering/ruddering is bad? I saw this alternate explanation for getting started on linking turns and it seemed like a helpful idea (conceptually at least, I have yet to try it out). It seems like a precursor to dynamic turning, with the exception that the rider isn't making him/herself lighter since they're not making any up/down movements (at least not deliberately). So I can see how it's not the same as dynamic turning, but why is it bad?

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I know Snowboard Addiction (pretty sure Nev is CASI 2 or 3 certified, I have the vid) and Snow professor (AASI 2 or 3 certified) also recommends "wipering" for going down steep terrain. But that might might be for intermediate to get used to leaning down a steep run and having their weight forward at the start of the turn.
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