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Old 03-11-2013, 02:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Just got into splitboarding aftet i got tired of hiking with the board on my back. I have just had a couple of days splitting on the hovercraft 160 split and spark burner bindings. Great on the BC and around the softer stuff, but when i hopped on to the groomers at the bottom to finish off, when i started trying to carve a bit more aggressively, i would reach a point toward the end of the turn when the tail just washed out and felt like it lost all edge. The conditions were fairly hard pack. I also ride a hovercraft solid 160 with flow nxt bindings and never had this problem. I wondered if it was the conditions so i took out my libtech trs and no problem. I carved as hard as i could and it never lost traction on the back end.
I know there is often a bit of compromise with stiffness but every review i read says they ride almost the same. Not my experience. I guess it fells like a really soft board on the groomer, but the solid version is really solid and can carve all day. What am i doing wrong?
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Old 03-11-2013, 02:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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where is your stance on your split in relation to your solid? if you are set back more, youll definitely feel more loose in the rear.
also, comparing the edge hold of a trs to a hovercraft split isnt a fair comparison at all....
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where is your stance on your split in relation to your solid? if you are set back more, youll definitely feel more loose in the rear.
also, comparing the edge hold of a trs to a hovercraft split isnt a fair comparison at all....
Set up, stance and set back the same on hover solid and split.
i wasnt intending to compare the trs ans hover split, it wa just to see if the conditions were un-carvable if you like. I would say that the hover solid and trs isnt such an unfair comparison. I can carve as hard on the hover solid as the trs. The solid is very stable, but the split feels like a totally different board.
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The only other thing i can think that may be different is the torsional flex and perhaps the fact that with the pucks, you are about an inch higher off your board...

are you sure its not all in your head..?
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Hovercraft is a pow board. That said it carves pretty well...unless you are all setback. But for sure it won't feel as solid as an all mountain board on hardpack..
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I had no problem carving on my hover split 156 on saturday. I even rode it switch for a while.


Are you bindings all the way in the back? my rear foot is only 1 hole from the front insert.
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this is a splitboard it is cut in half... It requires a little more attention to set up than a solid.

i have a couple guesses

make sure all your hardware is tight. Clamp one side of the board and rock the other back and forth, how much does it move? my opinion of the k clips is that they pull the board together really well, but are not as torsionally ridged as tight Chinese hooks, i tighten mine down so they dont move. Somebody did a pretty good test of the two on splitboard.com a while ago.

what forward lean do you have on your sparks, ( 0 ) on a spark is -5 degrees, for touring, many regular bindings ( 0 ) is positive. Adjust accordingly.

whats your heel and toe overhang look like, if you put the voile pucks on a certain way you can have too much heel overhang.

Have you toured through a lot of shit like rocks and dirt and dulled your edges? I did and it was noticeable effect on firm snow inbounds.

check the tune, (edge bevel, base flatness) on the split as well. Some jones boards had quality issues in the past, building a split is a little trickier than building a solid.

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Binding placement has little to do with it and in fact for good carving, a rider actually wants to shift their weight aft through turn completion. The Hovercraft split is designed for powder and while it will carve on hard groomers to an extent, it is not going to have the edge hold that a all mountain or free ride board will have in either split or conventional. My Billy Goat split will out carve a Hovercraft without effort. You can compensate somewhat through good technique such as flexion-extension and fore-aft movements but at some point, the limits of the board's performance capabilities will be reached. A Hovercraft is never going to be an aggressive carving board.
I would never call it aggressive but if you haven't ridden one it might surprise you how well it does do.

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I also agree that proper technique is also required.
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Dont expect to be very surprised lol. I found the hovercraft to really bad at holding an edge compared to my other boards. Its just too soft.
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Dont expect to be very surprised lol. I found the hovercraft to really bad at holding an edge compared to my other boards. Its just too soft.
You have to be kidding. rode one and its a fucking plank.
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