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Old 03-16-2013, 07:54 PM   #101 (permalink)
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aw jeez... hate to be 'that guy'...
but i like riding flat based. its fast, its fun... its kinda like the diff b/w 180s frontside and blind side, it really feels better (to me) to go blind...
im not saying i ride long distances w/out pressing either edge at all but i do press hard and flat with my front foot and, as little as possible, lightly / occasionally use my back foot for little corrections
the key is keeping your nose pointed in the direction of travel, if your board is pointed where your going its not possible to catch an edge
yah the ground can push you around and if you don't anticipate it you might pivot too far, catch and scorpion, but if your watching your path and you know how gravity will affect your momentum then its totally reasonable to ride pretty much flat az possible, with only a little bit of micro adjustments.
i think its like landing blind airs cuz yah you gotta trust the board and momentum, it does feel like you give up some control, just relax and let gravity take charge, if theres any slope you'll end up pointed strait down the fall line and thats fun!
or if its a flat cat track, like the traverses around RMR, you go further faster, dont need to unstrap to skate 50 metres like the rest of the jibbers.
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Old 03-16-2013, 09:15 PM   #102 (permalink)
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I know it's just nit picking but technically if you're putting pressure on the front of your board wouldn't it mean that the back of your board is raised slightly? I do this also, but I don't consider it being totally flat based ... Just playing devils advocate
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Old 03-16-2013, 09:32 PM   #103 (permalink)
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if you're putting pressure on the front of your board wouldn't it mean that the back of your board is raised slightly?
noooo.... not so much, pressure on my front foot, yah, like 60% to 40 on the back foot, the boards all on the snow, just lighter on the back so the inputs can be feathered lightly when needed but yah the main focus is on pressing the flat front foot...

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I don't consider it being totally flat based ...
i thought you didnt consider totally flat based to be practicable anyway!

j/k i agree its semantics but yah no there is for sure a difference b/w slightly holding an edge, and pressing flat as ya can and letting the terrain and gravity move you, just adjusting to keep the nose pointing strait
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Old 03-16-2013, 11:32 PM   #104 (permalink)
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I know it's just nit picking but technically if you're putting pressure on the front of your board wouldn't it mean that the back of your board is raised slightly? I do this also, but I don't consider it being totally flat based ... Just playing devils advocate

Your obviously one of those guys that will argue about anything just to not admit that your wrong or unable to accomplish what your arguing about....
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Old 03-16-2013, 11:41 PM   #105 (permalink)
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Cant believe he started again.
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Old 03-17-2013, 02:38 AM   #106 (permalink)
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Personally, I have found the discussion thought prolong and generally a great catylist to take a really close look at my own riding and do some self MA.
'thought provoking'?

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When I try to self-analyze, I frequently discover that what I think I'm doing isn't exactly what I'm doing. I may think I'm doing everything right, but in reality some details are off. Discussions like this help paying close attention to all the details.
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Old 03-17-2013, 07:35 AM   #107 (permalink)
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Your obviously one of those guys that will argue about anything just to not admit that your wrong or unable to accomplish what your arguing about....
How would I NOT be able to accomplish it? Ever watch videos of people putting their babies on snowboards? That's what the babies do.. Ride flat and go wherever the lay of the land takes them. Riding flat is the easiest thing to do.. I also think it is moronic and will eventually lead to an edge catch UNLESS you make corrections by applying pressure to a specific area of the board..and if that's the case, then what's the point ? You're obviously one of those guys that can't understand what devils advocate means and also can't understand the purpose of having a discussion ESPECIALLY since someone else (SnoWolf) posted back on his experiences and refueled the conversation.
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Cant believe he started again.
Dude, shut the fuck up. I'm contributing to a conversation, and I'm sorry if you're such a douchebag that you can't deal with it.


For a bunch of snowboarders, there are SO many whiny bitches on here.
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It's funny that snowolf said that, because I did the same thing Friday. There was some pretty long, only mildly graded run outs, and I found myself thinking about this thread and really paying attention to what my board was doing. I pretty much had the same conclusion as Eastside and Snowolf. One CAN ride completely flat, but the board will get a little squirrely if you don't use pressure to ccontrol it. To somebody watching, it would appear the board was completely flat. I think if I had been distracted I would have scorpioned as well. If I was to squat all the way down, lowering my center of gravity, that would certainly help, but I think lots of people, when flatbasing, stand pretty much straight up.
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Dude, shut the fuck up. I'm contributing to a conversation, and I'm sorry if you're such a douchebag that you can't deal with it.


For a bunch of snowboarders, there are SO many whiny bitches on here.
LOL, so ironic.
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Old 03-17-2013, 09:05 AM   #110 (permalink)
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Whoa dude! No need for that tone and no place for personal attacks in this subforum. ETM has strong opinions as do you, but his comment was not an attack on you; it was his exasperation over a topic I guess he feels people should stop talking about. A position I disagree with and I agree with your position about riding flat but please, lets keep this friendly bro....

And just to pass on my position about topics in general. If you are tired of the topic being discussed, politely excuse yourself from the conversation but don`t comment about others wishing to continue the discussion. It is rude to try to brow beat others into stopping the conversation.
The fact that he's now contributing nothing and just posting that I needed to keep going mixed with Argos comment could easily be considered a personal attack. I was having a mature discussion which seems to be above some people's heads. I understand your point but at some point they are just as guilty as me. It's annoying to wake up to people bitching about me calmly contributing to a topic .
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