Scorpioned while flat basing and now I can't anymore - Page 16 - Snowboarding Forum

The Deacon · 03-28-2013, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by neni

this "to flatbase or not to flatbase" topic seems to hit a sensitive spot, kind of a religious thing... Anyway. I actually didn't want to resume the flatbase discussion but was interested if someone else does this "more weight on hind foot" at top speed.

BTW. Just cause one thinks it's reckless doesn't automatically mean that there's not someone out there who does so

No sensitivity here, just good humor.

Just like Cass, I put more weight forward on my camber the faster I go. I could see how a rocker might be more stable at a high speed leaning back some. Explains why I see all the park rats standing on their back leg when they're bombing hills.

behi · 03-29-2013, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Snowolf

In powder or on groom? If in powder, where and what was the moisture content?

Fresh powder that was run over by a groomer - groomed powder.

Off trail, the fastest I've done is around 50mph. Snow set for a few days, pretty dense, temperature a little below freezing.

My board planes really well; 33cm tip/tail width, 28.6cm waist. I often have not-so-steep powder mostly to myself, since everyone else is going too slow to have much fun...

jtg · 04-02-2013, 07:36 PM

Interesting description about the bowling ball balancing on the RC/C2 profile. That's what I was feeling. I remember like 8 years ago before my boarding hiatus, I only got out a few times, but I still had no feelings of instability "flat basing" and that was on a cambered deck.

With the C2, even though it's been said to keep weight forward, I still feel like weight back is more stable. I can't really reconcile this because "heavy end wants to go first" is logical, but it feels like shifting weight forward is when the squirrel kicks in.

I wonder if this is because putting the weight forward is actually centering it right over the middle rocker section, briefly causing you to lose both front and rear contact (or at least heavily unweight them). Maybe when I think my weight is forward, it's actually centered. Perhaps on these C2/RC decks, it would be reasonable to say:

Centered flatbase: Worst
Rear-heavy flatbase: Better, but not ideal
Front-heavy flatbase: Best

On a camber board, centered weight puts maximum engagement on both points, and even if you favor one or the other, the profile will naturally put some pressure on the other point. That would make it easier for beginners to do that.

On a full rocker...well who knows, all bets are off

That makes me curious about trying it on a C3 profile:

I haven't ridden a board like that, but I'm curious now. It would be nice to have the camber stability but I'm not sure I'd sacrifice it for float.

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04-02-2013, 07:36 PM	#153 (permalink)
jtg -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: WA Posts: 116	Interesting description about the bowling ball balancing on the RC/C2 profile. That's what I was feeling. I remember like 8 years ago before my boarding hiatus, I only got out a few times, but I still had no feelings of instability "flat basing" and that was on a cambered deck. With the C2, even though it's been said to keep weight forward, I still feel like weight back is more stable. I can't really reconcile this because "heavy end wants to go first" is logical, but it feels like shifting weight forward is when the squirrel kicks in. I wonder if this is because putting the weight forward is actually centering it right over the middle rocker section, briefly causing you to lose both front and rear contact (or at least heavily unweight them). Maybe when I think my weight is forward, it's actually centered. Perhaps on these C2/RC decks, it would be reasonable to say: Centered flatbase: Worst Rear-heavy flatbase: Better, but not ideal Front-heavy flatbase: Best On a camber board, centered weight puts maximum engagement on both points, and even if you favor one or the other, the profile will naturally put some pressure on the other point. That would make it easier for beginners to do that. On a full rocker...well who knows, all bets are off That makes me curious about trying it on a C3 profile: I haven't ridden a board like that, but I'm curious now. It would be nice to have the camber stability but I'm not sure I'd sacrifice it for float.