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you don't have to be engaging in edge when you put pressure on it. You have to have some sort of pressure on an edge or else eventually you will scorpion big time when you least expect it.

If you are going maximum speed completely flat based, you're an idiot.
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Im totally in control, whats the issue? I can use an edge at any time if I need to.
You're clearly not understanding the concept. It's not about engaging an edge like carving. You need to put pressure to one side, even if its the slightest bit. You're probably not even aware you're doing this but if you're not then somehow you've figured out how to defy physics.. Or you're just sloppy


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Im totally in control, whats the issue? I can use an edge at any time if I need to.
that's my point. you actually have ZERO control unless you actually are pressuring an edge. so either you're pressuring an edge slightly or you're not going to be in control.
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You're clearly not understanding the concept. It's not about engaging an edge like carving. You need to put pressure to one side, even if its the slightest bit. You're probably not even aware you're doing this but if you're not then somehow you've figured out how to defy physics.. Or you're just sloppy
First up you might need to put pressure one one side to not catch an edge, I was like that for years so I know exactly what you are talking about but what you are not hearing is that I have learned to be able to ride completely flat based and I dont think im any kind of super badass snowboard guru / physics defying athlete lol.
Im talking no edge, no edge pressure, its like carrying your momentum across a flat box, people can learn to do that so I dont see why you cant accept that a person could learn to do the same on snow.

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that's my point. you actually have ZERO control unless you actually are pressuring an edge. so either you're pressuring an edge slightly or you're not going to be in control.
I agree, sometimes you just dont need to guide the board, the mountain will push you where it wants. You follow the same path a ball would if it were rolled down the same slope.
When you need to make a correction you can apply pressure to or engage an edge.
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I agree, sometimes you just dont need to guide the board, the mountain will push you where it wants. You follow the same path a ball would if it were rolled down the same slope.
When you need to make a correction you can apply pressure to or engage an edge.
you can't compare a ball with a snowboard. if you want to let mountain push you where it wants to, be my guest. just know that either you aren't completely flat basing or you will catch an edge big time eventually. that's really all there is to it.
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First up you might need to put pressure one one side to not catch an edge, I was like that for years so I know exactly what you are talking about but what you are not hearing is that I have learned to be able to ride completely flat based and I dont think im any kind of super badass snowboard guru / physics defying athlete lol.
Im talking no edge, no edge pressure, its like carrying your momentum across a flat box, people can learn to do that so I dont see why you cant accept that a person could learn to do the same on snow.

Arguing asbout this rediculous.
I also used to be pretty good at riding flat-based. Doesn't work everywhere and doesn't work well in choppy conditions. I'd still occasionally catch an edge, but my board was soft enough and I was used to the feeling enough that I could correct it and wouldn't fall. Ungraceful? Certainly when I had to make corrections. Doable? In the right conditions. I don't do it anymore though, since we actually get snow out west that would cause constant edge catching. That and after taking a snowboarding hiatus, my reflexes aren't what they used to be.
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you can't compare a ball with a snowboard. if you want to let mountain push you where it wants to, be my guest. just know that either you aren't completely flat basing or you will catch an edge big time eventually. that's really all there is to it.
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This is how that explanation reads to me :


I ride sloppy and without control and let the board steer me and then then I realize I need to get control I use an edge. You know when I ride flat based? When I'm tired and riding sloppy. It's basically like you're pressing the gas pedal on your car with your hands off the wall and grabbing the wheel right before you crash. It's a good thing no one drives that way.

Whatever works for you. It sounds like you let the board steer you . I'd try and break that habit.. There's absolutely no use for it


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I also used to be pretty good at riding flat-based. Doesn't work everywhere and doesn't work well in choppy conditions. I'd still occasionally catch an edge, but my board was soft enough and I was used to the feeling enough that I could correct it and wouldn't fall. Ungraceful? Certainly when I had to make corrections. Doable? In the right conditions. I don't do it anymore though, since we actually get snow out west that would cause constant edge catching. That and after taking a snowboarding hiatus, my reflexes aren't what they used to be.
Thank you brother! I was being tagged teamed there by some guys who clearly have not developed the board control and reflex reaction it takes to be able to truely flat base.
A mistake is not a mistake if you realise its about to happen and make a correction before it kicks your ass.
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I think you THINK you're flat basing but I'd be willing to bet money that you're not.
I'm sure he'll take that bet, count me in as well.
I need some cash too.

I flat base all the time, I just get a little bit lower than normal & let my feet & ankles turn to jelly.

It would be the same as if you had a board & let it go on its own.
Sure it bounces around a little bit, but @ no time is it on edge for more than a fraction of a second because nothing is keeping pressure on the edge.

It's just something you will develop with time.

If I want to go fast, it's flat base time.

I've gone in a few Chinese Downhill races, if you can't ride flat based?
You're in the back half of the pack.
I'll see ya when you get to the bottom

The guy who wins, was on his edge the least amount of time.
Unlike Boardercross, the Chinese Downhill is about picking the right line.
The straightest line wins.

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