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Old 03-15-2013, 09:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I can't figure out nose manuals. I can do normal manuals, spin on my nose or tail, and press my nose and tail on flatland fine, but the nose manual still eludes me.

I always manage to catch my heel edge because I turn backside without trying to. I can never tell if my tail is actually off the ground without looking back which always makes me fall. I have trouble just getting my tail in the air.

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lean forward?
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Old 03-15-2013, 09:26 PM   #3 (permalink)
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lean forward?
I figured that much out, but it doesn't work. With tail manuals I just have to bend my back knee and lean back a bit. I try doing that forward and nothing good ever happens.
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I can't figure out nose manuals. I can do normal manuals, spin on my nose or tail, and press my nose and tail on flatland fine, but the nose manual still eludes me.

I always manage to catch my heel edge because I turn backside without trying to. I can never tell if my tail is actually off the ground without looking back which always makes me fall. I have trouble just getting my tail in the air.

Any advice?
when i first tried nose presses i did the same thing. for me i was afraid of leaning to far forward and falling. so i didnt lean enough. just try to committee and pull that back leg up.
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OK. Again Im not snowboard park guru but I did used to do alot of this stuff on a skateboard and the theory is the same.
I always found when doing forward leaning tricks like a nose grind or nose manual pushing your legs out in front of you gives you a safety margin. Its stops you from being right on the edge of falling forward which allows you to make subtle weight adjustments to keep your balance.
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I figured that much out, but it doesn't work. With tail manuals I just have to bend my back knee and lean back a bit. I try doing that forward and nothing good ever happens.
That's because you're facing downhill, and when leaning forward to a nose-manual in that direction you're at a much greater angle than when doing a manual, which is why it's uncomfortable.

I've been having the same issue. What you need to work on is getting comfortable with looking forward during a nose-manual. Practice this more on flat terrain like you have been already, and then start out in motion on the least-steep slope you can find. It's really just about getting used to it, that's all. Although yeah, it really is awkward at first.

Interestingly, I learned to manual from having to lean back so much to stay afloat in pow with my old board, and I was surprised recently to find I could actually steer in a tail-manual on groomed terrain like I did in the pow (good edge hold) This isn't really related, but I just though this thread would be a good place to talk about it.
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Old 03-15-2013, 10:02 PM   #7 (permalink)
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What helped me was a small olli into the nose press, I could tail press no prob but could never get the tail up and on the nose till a friend told me to olli into it, just a slight back n forth rock of the board. Still got work to do on it but I can at least get the tail off the ground.
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What's the angle on your front foot? When I had my stance at +18/-18 (tried it out for shits and giggles) My balance when pressing anything was way off and I'd nose manual for a bit then tip over. Something that you could try is leaning forward and grabbing hold of your nose and leaning on your toes a bit more.
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yea nose manual on a skate or nose press on a board these things are not easy and there is usually a pretty small area of balance that you have to be pretty good at.
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If you are falling forward it is probably because you are leaning too much with your upper body. It is more about moving your hips and lower body weight foward. While keeping your back up straight.
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