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Old 05-15-2013, 02:36 PM   #51 (permalink)
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thanks for info. well apparently I'm doing it right, open shoulders sounds incredibly unnatural. though I have caught myself sometimes twisting when trying to look where im going downhill, turning more than just my head, and throws me off balance.
That's exactly it. Some beginners do that all the time! If you are wondering how you appear from outside, it looks like a windshield wiper going down the slope. Look for someone boarding like a windshield wiper, and you'll be able to identify it instantly.

You'll get the technique sorted eventually, so that you rarely ever do it. Although, sometimes you go over some crazy terrain and get so sketched out that you do it by instinct. You know you're close to wiping at that point. The only times I don't is when I force myself back into stance.
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Old 05-15-2013, 05:44 PM   #52 (permalink)
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In general, shoulders should be square to the board. Front shoulder towards nose, rear towards tail.

Now when you are turning/carving, this changes as you rotate your shoulders into turns. But if you are going straight down the hill, you don't want your shoulders "open".

In this context, "open" means his shoulders are perpendicular to the board (which is pointing straight down the mountain). He's riding like a skier up top (facing straight down the hill), and a snowboarder down below (front foot forward - board perpendicular to fall line), all twisted like. This is poor technique (terrible for your balance) and is as stylish as a bag of dicks.
Thanks for stepping in bamfb2 it must be hard work to just run straight when you're "open" ....
Since I started in Febuary, I have hardly been without coaching and I am now seeing people that are on the verge of wiping out! This guy will fall and fall hard! And when he does, he'll either quit or go off for some kind of learning... I hope for his sake it's the latter....
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Ahhh, I see you are from NZ. It was either that or East (ice) Coast US. West Coast folks know nothing of the phenomenon you describe above.
Haha, Smug!!!! Trip stateside in the pipeline for this year though
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Haha, Smug!!!! Trip stateside in the pipeline for this year though
Hey, no smugness here bro. Just empathy. Ice Coast regular. Vermont.
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Hey, no smugness here bro. Just empathy. Ice Coast regular. Vermont.
Ahhh you feel my pain!! Makes the rare powder days all the more special and riding on the soft stuff just too easy, that's what I tell myself anyway
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Ahhh you feel my pain!! Makes the rare powder days all the more special and riding on the soft stuff just too easy, that's what I tell myself anyway
What's powder? you would probably hate my indoor slope!
Artificially made snow, real grainy filled with lumps of ice... on busy days and after a freestyle evet it's in real bad shape with huge patches of ice that try to kill you just when you're going on edge....
It does force you to lean though... The painful way!
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What's powder? you would probably hate my indoor slope!
Artificially made snow, real grainy filled with lumps of ice... on busy days and after a freestyle evet it's in real bad shape with huge patches of ice that try to kill you just when you're going on edge....
It does force you to lean though... The painful way!
Powder is the name given to fresh snow that one would snowboard or ski in. Often time, powder refers to one to two inches or more. The deeper the powder, the better.
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What's powder? you would probably hate my indoor slope!
Artificially made snow, real grainy filled with lumps of ice... on busy days and after a freestyle evet it's in real bad shape with huge patches of ice that try to kill you just when you're going on edge....
It does force you to lean though... The painful way!
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MK is the best indoor slope I have been to, Hemel isn't bad. But as you say forces you to learn on the crap stuff, when you hit your first mountain Dave you will be in heaven!!! There is nothing better than the real thing, but you will be so glad you got all your basics out the way on the hard stuff.

Any trips planned yet?
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MK is the best indoor slope I have been to, Hemel isn't bad. But as you say forces you to learn on the crap stuff, when you hit your first mountain Dave you will be in heaven!!! There is nothing better than the real thing, but you will be so glad you got all your basics out the way on the hard stuff.

Any trips planned yet?
Any decent slopes in or around Leeds? How late do they stay open of an evening? Any pointers to finding discounted tickets or packages if you were planning to hit these indoor slopes, say, 15-20 times over 5 weeks.
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Any decent slopes in or around Leeds? How late do they stay open of an evening? Any pointers to finding discounted tickets or packages if you were planning to hit these indoor slopes, say, 15-20 times over 5 weeks.
On the plus side, you get year round practice. I'd kill for that around here. Don't even have a tramp setup close to my house. Actually thinking of opening something like that up. Just have to figure out the funding aspect.
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