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post #11 of 28 (permalink) Old 05-02-2013, 03:05 AM Thread Starter
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I've read that the citrus base cleaner can damage your board or something I really don't know. Will it help that much? I think I might get the structure fixed, but later, I'll reply if that helps. In the mean time should I get the base cleaned? Is it worth it? Does it honestly make you faster?
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Structuring has nothing to do with wax retention. A structure is a pattern etched into the base of the board designed to break up suction forces applied to the board as you melt snow sliding down the mountain. The difference between a structured and unstructured base is most dramatic in wet, warm snow, but the right structure for a given condition will always help.

Most snowboards come without any structure whatsoever, so even a brand new deck can benefit from a stone grind. More detail here
cool - thanks! i was under the impression that you would benefit from structuring an extruded base by not having the wax come off after a couple runs like OP said. i understand the physics of sliding on snow, but i didn't know that the structure of the base was as important as brushing/structuring the wax on the board once it's scraped. cool article
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I've read that the citrus base cleaner can damage your board or something I really don't know. Will it help that much? I think I might get the structure fixed, but later, I'll reply if that helps. In the mean time should I get the base cleaned? Is it worth it? Does it honestly make you faster?
i don't know if it will help you... we may have had different issues - i used a citrus cleaner on my board to get all of the sticky stuff off that seemed to accumulate from the spring snow. if you want to clean your board without it, you can try and do a "hot scrape" which is basically just scraping off the wax while it's still warm... which is said to pull all the dirt and shit from your board with it. look it up, i'm sure there are tons of thread on here about it.

i've heard that citrus cleaners are not good for the base of your board too... but realistically: i'm riding on my board, sliding it on boxes, rails, rocks... i really don't think any of that is "good" for the board either. lol. it was a super easy way to get all that weird sticky shit off that was slowing me down, and now the board rides great.

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Yes, structure is very important if the snow is more wet. Case in point, I bought a board this year that already came with a good structure, didn't wax it for the first 10 days out and it was great...

I don't see how a citrus cleaner could hurt your base, it is a very tough form of plastic remember! That said I don't bother cleaning my base, ever. I just wax, scrape, and texture. Every once in a while get a stone grind.
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good post. I just wax the shit out of it and let all the rocks I bang give it some structure...lol

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Structuring has nothing to do with wax retention. A structure is a pattern etched into the base of the board designed to break up suction forces applied to the board as you melt snow sliding down the mountain. The difference between a structured and unstructured base is most dramatic in wet, warm snow, but the right structure for a given condition will always help.

Most snowboards come without any structure whatsoever, so even a brand new deck can benefit from a stone grind. More detail here
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I snowboard inside that is correct, and the snow is anything but slushy. I'm going to do a hot scrape today and I'm going boarding tomorrow, if it helps I'll write. I plan on buying a citrus base cleaner tomorrow and cleaning the base, but till then I'll just do a hot scrape.
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Thanks for sharing.

I'm curious of the temp in that dome too.

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Update: I went yesterday after giving my board a hot scrape, and for the first 2-3 hours it was great. I never went so fast ever. After though I started feeling the same thing. My board slowed down to a point where i was flatbasing and still slowing down. I think it's the structure. ^^thanks for the links, but I'm not sure, do those stores still do services this late, I think they might be closed by now or something. So that's the update
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is your board the only one that slows down that much or are your buddys or other people do have the same problem? i had kind of the same speedissues because of the snow, wich was getting softer and dry after 2 or 3 hours.

if it`s only your board, then maybe you use the wrong wax. and maybe a stone grind would really help.

try to hotwax it more than just one time before you scrape it. wait just 2 to 3 hours before you warm it up again. maybe 2 to 3 times...


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