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Old 09-27-2013, 11:56 AM   #11 (permalink)
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The problem here is your technique, aka that your side slipping in the first place. Learn how to carve on less steep runs and work your way up to blacks and double blacks. And pick your run before hand so your not side slipping over blacks and pushing snow piles that could endanger someone going fast. Also good that your going with an instructor, they will help you quite a bit in the beginning stages of your riding.
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Old 09-27-2013, 12:32 PM   #12 (permalink)
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The problem here is your technique, aka that your side slipping in the first place. Learn how to carve on less steep runs and work your way up to blacks and double blacks. And pick your run before hand so your not side slipping over blacks and pushing snow piles that could endanger someone going fast. Also good that your going with an instructor, they will help you quite a bit in the beginning stages of your riding.


yea no reason to get better at side slipping.

Even with advanced techniques the way we apply pressure to the heel edge is going to make it physically perform a bit different from toe side which requires finer muscle memory from the ankles all the way through the hips and shoulder for balance.

You are experiencing this same difference in physics without any of the advantages of knowing how to ride. Accept that heel side slide slipping is never going to give you the confidence you are looking for, instead learn to advance down the fall line (this will break you of the fear that is keeping you in falling leaf techniques) and brake using either edge.
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Old 09-27-2013, 12:53 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Hi, I'm pretty much a beginner, I did my first week snowboarding 2 years ago in the Czech republic, for a week, and a year ago in Austria, also for a week.

In those two times, I noticed a problem with my side slipping.
After doing side slipping for a few minutes(when encountering a too steep of a hill for me) the mussels surrounding my ankle, and above that, really hurts. It hurts to an extend that I can't keep on doing side slipping. So, the way I see it, the problem should be one of the following:
  • Something's wrong with my technique
    My mussels around the ankle and above a re really week
    Side slipping in steep hills/icy hills was not meant to be done for more than a few minutes/dozens of meters...

What do you think?

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Is it only one ankle? What is the pain like? stabbing or a dull pain? Although technique will improve your riding. It sounds a lot more like you had a previous ankle injury.
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Old 09-27-2013, 01:02 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Regarding my technique (or the lack of it...) - When I'm doing the side slipping, I'm greatly using my foot, by lifting the foot front and toes
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Basically you want your weight song the work so squat down and this will move your mass over the heel edge which will engage it instead of trying to do it all with your feet/ankles.
This is the correct way to side slip on your heels, you want to get in a squat position so that all of your weight is over your heel edge, as oppose to trying to lift up your toes.
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Old 09-27-2013, 01:18 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Hi, I'm pretty much a beginner, I did my first week snowboarding 2 years ago in the Czech republic, for a week, and a year ago in Austria, also for a week.

In those two times, I noticed a problem with my side slipping.
After doing side slipping for a few minutes(when encountering a too steep of a hill for me) the mussels surrounding my ankle, and above that, really hurts. It hurts to an extend that I can't keep on doing side slipping. So, the way I see it, the problem should be one of the following:
  • Something's wrong with my technique
    My mussels around the ankle and above a re really week
    Side slipping in steep hills/icy hills was not meant to be done for more than a few minutes/dozens of meters...

What do you think?

Thanks
That's your answer in bold. Get back onto hills you are comfortable with and don't side slip unless in an emergency (it happens).

When you side slip you're fighting gravity. Well gravity wins. As you get better, you'll learn to traverse steeper hills. There are a few different ways. I used to just turn quickly and go to one side, pause, then turn quickly (you can hop but I'm not sure that's recommended/correct) to face the other way and then go to the other side, etc etc. Now I'm pretty much comfortable with all but the steepest of the steeps but that's how I used to do it.

It's just skill/comfort.
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Old 09-27-2013, 09:49 PM   #16 (permalink)
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as everyone stated, get a class. If you cannot afford just watch some vids(I did) about J-turns or garland turns and practice them on a less steeper hills. side slipping has there place in boarding but its frowned upon by skiers
goodluck and enjoy your riding this season.
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Old 09-29-2013, 04:30 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Thumbs up Thanks for your advices, will try all of them :)

Thanks for your advices, will try all of them
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Old 09-29-2013, 04:54 PM   #18 (permalink)
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If you absolutely have to sideslip, slip heelside and then switch to toeside, and back and forth. It's hard to commit at first because it feels like you're going to die. But once you get used to the feeling, you'll come to like it. And if you keep switching back and forth eventually you'll discover you're turning all the time, and you don't need to slip anymore. But what helped me was riding on greens and practicing constantly turning to get a better feel.
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Old 10-07-2013, 04:38 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Hey Yeti. The pain you are experimenting is your like many says your muscles not being used to it, your highbacks could be a bit too stiff for you as a beginner (the big plastic things sticking out of your bindings to support the back of your lower leg) and your muscles around your lower leg tightening up. Call them shinsplints if you will one can get same stuff when you start running a lot.

So quick fix is like others said get lessons to learn to curve and slow down on your toes as well when needed, do runs that aren't so steep that you need to break hard and massage your calfs and shins.

Have fun out there and report back if you are getting rid of this problem
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