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Old 10-18-2013, 02:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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For those of you that wakeboard out there. I was just curious how similar a Barrel Roll is on snowboard to a Tantrum on a wakeboard? It looks like the same trick, but given there is no rope/handle on snow I was curious if that makes the trick easier on snow or more difficult?

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For those of you that wakeboard out there. I was just curious how similar a Barrel Roll is on snowboard to a Tantrum on a wakeboard? It looks like the same trick, but given there is no rope/handle on snow I was curious if that makes the trick easier on snow or more difficult?

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More difficult since its really tough to do a true barrel roll without spinning. The fact that you have a rope with wake keeps the spin tamed.
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i thought a tantrum had a 180 in it?
if so thats like a rodeo correct?
(bs rodeo)
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Old 10-18-2013, 09:11 PM   #4 (permalink)
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More difficult since its really tough to do a true barrel roll without spinning. The fact that you have a rope with wake keeps the spin tamed.
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So what do i have to focus on doing differently when trying the barrel role on snow compared to when i throw a tantrum on the water?
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if you're gonna do a barrel roll on snow, might as well just go for a back rodeo.
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So what do i have to focus on doing differently when trying the barrel role on snow compared to when i throw a tantrum on the water?
um that trip motion where you use the wake to flip no longer flies. I honestly don't know the mechanics of a tantrum style barrel roll. I think I've seen seb toots do one front side. Otherwise the closest you can really get would be those really tough inverted 3's. They are like a front rodeo 5 but with just the flip and no last spin. It's like a miller flip with out anything to plant and they are hard and scary as fuck.
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Old 10-25-2013, 09:47 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Hey Guys,

Thanks for your replies so far. I am not sure if I am explaining this right so thought I would post video. This is the trick I am referring to on a wakeboard:

Tantrum Cable Milano 07062012 - YouTube

This is the trick I am talking about on a snowboard that I am hoping to get some tips on:

Snowboard backflip Barrelroll - YouTube

To me they look similar, was hoping it would be a bit of a natural progression. Is this what you guys were referring to when you were explaining above?? Can you give me any further insight after seeing video??

Thanks again !
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Notice how the dude almost spun out on the snowboard. If you really want to barrel role like that dude, which I highly recommend never trying, you'd have to start that backflip motion closed and spin a little front side. Terribly difficult and very consequential to fuck up.
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which is why i said you might as well go for a back rodeo. looks cooler and more natural.
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Ok cool, thanks for the help guys. Just wasn't sure if I was explaining it right, hence the videos...thanks again for the insight. Seems like the rope plays more of a role in that trick on the wakeboard then I initially realized. Makes sense to me now.

Regarding inverts on snow, do you think it is best to just disregard any techniques from wake because it is completely different ??? Or is there something I can build on from wake, I am pretty comfortable getting upside down there, just haven't taken it to the snow yet. Is there another trick you would suggest trying first? (I know you said rodeo but maybe is there something even a bit more basic?)

Thanks again for your replies guys...
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