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Old 04-10-2014, 05:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello!

I'm very new at this, and looking forward to next season already. Part of the looking forward/planning process is knowing that I really need to get my own board/bindings/boots instead of using the rental stuff.

My stats - 46 yrs old, 5'2", 140#, have 3 lessons under my belt (but I wouldn't even count one - I was too scared to even get on the lift...lol). I don't ski, so the whole experience is a steep learning curve. My son is 10, also had 3 lessons and is doing incredibly well. Given how quickly he grows... I'm not planning on buying his gear 'til I find a really great deal on something (or can lease). We live in a very remote area in MT, but have a decent ski area about 1.5 hrs away.

So... I over-research everything until I'm dizzy with trying to sort it out. I want to save most of my budget for boots, so am trying to find a decent board for a nervous beginner. Here are some candidates - and if anyone can narrow my search down with some guidance or wisdom, I would sooo appreciate the help. My total budget is (optimally) around $350 - and I'm watching end-of-season sales to try and score things on the cheap. I figure that boots will be the hardest to fit, so know I'll be doing some long town trips to find decent boots.

Here are my candidates:

Burton Genie
Rome Romp
Flow Silhouette
Roxy Sugar Banana
Gnu B Nice
Forum Star
Ride Rapture
Arbor Poparazzi

Easy, huh??? Arrrgh!!! I found a Flow Silhouette on eBay for $120, new, which seemed like a really good deal (it's the 12/13 model?). I don't care about graphics and anticipate (1) falling lots, (2) being very stubborn and working 'til I figure this out, and (3) staying pretty well on groomed runs and not wanting to do anything to daring (yet... ha ha ha). I just want to get out there and have a good time with my son.

Thank you in advance... I've done quite a bit of lurking here, and I know another 'what should i do to start... ' thread is likely not what anyone feels like answering. Again, I would appreciate any wisdom.

Many, many thanks -
donna
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Old 04-10-2014, 06:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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1) are you looking specifically for a rocker board? they say they're more forgiving and easier to ride but I'm not sure if its the best thing to learn on

2) when shopping around for deals, make sure they have your size

3) I don't know anything about women's snowboards
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Old 04-10-2014, 09:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I got my gf a flow silhouette to learn on. Its perfect for that and the price is just stupid cheap.
Rocker lets you get away with things where a camber board will punish you, learners dont need to be punished lol.
Ride that until you feel yourself wanting something more aggressive then get a camber board

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Old 04-10-2014, 10:11 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I don't know much about women's boards, but you should really see a board in person(you can buy it online later, if you want), as all those stats mean very little, especially comparing boards between manufacturers. Doing things like testing flex are impossible online, and you can't go by the "flex profile." It means little. A Burton "3" for instance, has a different flex than a Rome "3," which is different than a Flow "3," a Gnu "3," etc.

Weight is another one that can't really be gaged online. These all make a difference, so poke around the decks when you go check out boots. Don't be afraid of the sales people, they can be helpful. Ask questions, get their suggestions. You can always check with us here, to be sure they're good ones, and not trying to get you to buy the most expensive or whatever deck they have a bunch of left and are trying to push.

Also, Tactics.com gives pretty good profiles on the boards and bindings from what I can tell. Stuff like flex can be gaged on their scale, as it's based on their tests, not what the manufacturer says. Check em out.
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Old 04-11-2014, 12:37 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Thanks! I appreciate the help. We're going tomorrow to a different ski area, likely different rental gear, and hopefully I can get a bit more of a feel for what might work. I do get your point(s) about how not only the ratings for flex are different, but also how I don't need the extra punishment of trying to learn camber vs rocker, when what I really need is to sort turning and staying upright.

I'll be able to visit a few shops soon, and if I don't snap up the eBay deal, I'm sure that something will appeal.
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Find a shop that has friendly, KNOWLEDGEABLE peeps and pick their brain: Thats what their there for. Ride with people that are better then you: I'm serious; Ride with people that will stoke u up and that will make u ride better. Watch people ride when you're riding up the chair: U can learn a lot that way too.
Ask people about the boards and bindings the're riding....... These type of things have helped me thru the years.
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Find a shop that has friendly, KNOWLEDGEABLE peeps and pick their brain: Thats what their there for.
Little add since it's hard for a noob to determine who's and who's not: the shop guy who determines the appropriate lenght of the board by holding it next to you checking if it goes up to you chin does not belong to the "knowledgeable" category
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Thanks again. Point(s) well taken - pick some brains, but be careful about which brains I pick.

We went yesterday and were set up on Burton LTR boards - those were SO much better than the rental gear I'd used before. Huge difference, as was switching away from the step-in bindings (to the ratchet kind - i have no clue what they're called- sorry).

I think that I'll keep looking, and if nothing else comes up, will likely buy the Flow Silhoutte if the uber-cheap one is till available on eBay. I can then divert budget into bindings and boots.

We made tons of progress yesterday, so I'm pretty optimistic about learning much more quickly with my own gear next season. Thanks again for the help!
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Little add since it's hard for a noob to determine who's and who's not: the shop guy who determines the appropriate lenght of the board by holding it next to you checking if it goes up to you chin does not belong to the "knowledgeable" category
The guy I had suggested mine based on what he uses, sine we have a similar build. I weigh more than he does, but he said "You're a beginner, shorter board will be easier for you to control."
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The guy I had suggested mine based on what he uses, sine we have a similar build. I weigh more than he does, but he said "You're a beginner, shorter board will be easier for you to control."
good decision.
Rule of thumb: short=easy to turn but not very stable at speed. Long= vice versa. As beginner, you want to be in the lower weight range of a board (easier to control/turn, like your guy correctly stated) as you won't charge/carve at high speed yet but profit from the plus in agility. The more you advance, you'll rather choose boards in the mid/upper range, depending on your preferences.

Board lengh and weight range do have inherent similarities (range increase as length increases), but length by chin is rather sketchy... e.g. I'm 125lbs, chin measure would put me on a 156. That means the longest board in every women's model - if available at all
If a beginner, a 156 would be a rather hard start! OTOH, lower weight ranges would put me on a +/- 145 (checked it with some GNU and Ride boards), which would be a way better start
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