Hey guys, I'm new to snowboard forum and this is my first post. I joined snowboard forum because I'm a super beginner and feel like I have much to learn... Most importantly, I need some advice on how to handle being ripped off on my first snowboard purchase..
Here it goes.
In about November 2014, I bought a used never summer revolver 160 cm from a high school acquaintance.. It came with used RK30 flux bindings... I payed $325 cash for it, and bought it solely to practice and take to a trip to Vail colorado.
I bought the board, but was a little suspicious about the owner, and the stuff he told me.. at the time, I new ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about snowboards, and he worked at the only ski shop in town..
The day of purchase....The board had a small crack in the edge, and another large, cracked and slightly displaced spot in the edge, but the owner assured me that it was simply superficial. I take two painful runs with it at a local slope.. it doesn't ride perfect but it got the job done.
2 months later. Cue arrival to vail.
I check my board in at the valet storage for my hotel, and the repair guy tells me that my board is seriously damaged and needs repaired. Called the seller and asked him and he said a good repair job will last me the rest of my life... I pay $60 and the repair is ok. It cracks 2 days later and the head repair guy fixes it pro bono... He then proceeds to tell me the seller really screwed me and I should get my money back because it took 4 hours to fix the board and he said that a board that damaged and weak won't last me much longer. He then tells me he did the first repair job and that he knew a board that damaged wouldn't last long, even though he did all he could both times.
I'm gonna provide some photos and see what y'all think. Let me know asap because I'm confronting this guy tomorrow.
What do YOU think the board is worth? Did i get screwed and taken advantage of? what actions should i take against this dude....
msrp for brand new never summer revolver and flux bindings is 407+160= $567....
Good luck with getting any money back he will just say he told you about it. Take this a learning point don’t trust anyone unless you know what you are buying. Just ride the board till it dies and look for a deal now till June for last years gear.
Ps. That's why I buy things new, even if it's a previous year leftover or end of season deals....from reputable resellers whether online or from a shop. My first board was a previous year leftover at a shop.
dang... well this guy actually knew me in high school and I know where he lives so I can at least confront him about it.. maybe that will change things. I still don't think that was cool to rip off a beginner but I think y'all are right I'm going to buy a new board for next year... top sites?
Definitely check out any of your local shops first. Right now most of them are likely having sales to try to get rid of old product, and they will definitely take care of you more than a mail order company if you have any issues down the road.
As an added bonus, as a beginner, they should certainly help direct you toward a board that will suit your abilities a bit more as well
Since you rode it, the original seller will just say you broke it. Ride it as an early/late season board. Don't by anything used that's damaged, not worth the hassle
True case of buyer beware. Sorry you got taken, especially from an acquaintance.
You said this guy was shady
you saw the damage
you bought a year ago but how old was the board 2012 model? that will also play into the price
You got some nice bindings :happy:
You didn't list your stats or the type of terrain you ride but 160 seems like a pretty big board as well. Especially for a beginner.
Like others have said, just take it as a leaning experience. Now your a seasoned rider and know what to look for or " look out " for. You say this is your only local shop, where is the next closest shop. That may be worth the road trip, especially if you need boots.
Speaking of where did you buy the boots from, same guy. If so I can see them not fitting properly and he lied to you about them too. Hope I'm wrong.
Ride it if you can, like I said the bindings are great. Hang it on the wall as art and a reminder.
Welcome to the forum and hope to hear better stories of good times from ya
It's always too bad when the new guys find this forum after their first purchase and find out they've been screwed, either deliberately or not.
Though I think you were had on this, more often then not people over value the stuff they are selling. Unfortunately there is no Kelley Blue Book for equipment. But a little bit of experience would show this as a guideline.
Most new stuff will for 30-40% off MSRP at the end of season. So that is your real starting point to begin taking off from. So for used, assuming it's more than a season old, you are crazy to pay more than 50% MSRP in my opinion and then another 10% per year.
Of course there is a bottom price point where people just won't sell below, but honestly for the above that should have been at probably $150-200 without the damage, 6yo bindings have basically depreciated to nothing.
Sorry you got screwed, but there's nothing you can do.
In the future, wait for end of season sales and you can get a brand new quality board and brand new quality bindings for less than you bought that used broken board for.
That said, if it makes you feel better most newbies who buy used equipment get screwed first time out. Either by price, bad fit, or simply the wrong equipment for the job at hand.
Yikes. looks like your'e shit out of luck chief. I went to the Burton Outlet store and got a brand new 2014 Sherlock and brand new 2013 winged malavitas and brand 2014 rulers for $480. Let this be a learning experience for ya bud
that edge doesn't really look too bad, it's nothing detrimental to your board.
the fix probably came undone on your trip because the epoxy didn't get to fully set.
that price isn't terrible, especially if the bindings are still in good condition.
Yeah. The whole deal got sorted out. So it's not a problem anymore. I'm of the opinion the pictures don't really show how bad it was. The board edge was splintered and had swelled about 5mm from the base, and it had to be repaired twice over two days. But now me and the guy who I did business with are square even. We struck a deal and he was a good guy about it. Really was impressed with him. Thanks to all for the advice!
Well,.. glad to hear it got sorted out to your satisfaction! You don't often hear of these kinds of things going that way! Good luck to ya!
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