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Old 04-08-2015, 12:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Tried to correct title of 'Bunny Beginner" (lol) to Bunny Hill Beginner but didn't manage to...

1. Is it a problem for a beginner (who doesn't want to ride in a park) if the board has lots of nicks? I read that those happen getting off the chairlift etc. Isn't it a good idea to buy a nicked-up board to start with if it's just going to get nicked up anyway. (I can get it all for $250 Cdn)

2. Which is better to have:
-Something couple years old but well-used?
-Something in mint condition but could be very old

(well-used K2 Moment 143 combo w/ boots ($250 negotiated) vs mint K2 Luna 143 w/Rossignol dual back ankle support for $325)


Female 110 lbs, Height 5'5

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Old 04-08-2015, 01:29 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Depends on the nicks... dings on the topsheet are harmless, some superficial scratches in the base won't harm neither. Check if the edge is fine. You don't want nicks in the edge or a damaged base right at the edge.

But... how old of a board combo are you talking? Be aware that CL adds are full of morons which try to ripp off noobs with no clue about prices... sometimes with hilarious high prices for old crap! As a reference: You can get brand new last years beginner boards for 200$, and used (but not old!) bindings / boots for ~50$ each...

Also be very careful with the boots... don't just get a combo cos it's tempting n cheap without having tried the boots carefully. They are the most important part of your gear, the one part which causes most problems (endless list of ppl with foot pain, pressure points a.s.o.). Go to a shop with a good selection and try many boots to get a feeling for what fits and what not. You can buy slightly(!) used boots if you want, there are enough ppl who only used them a few times and gave up snowboarding, but don't buy old used boots (they break in after a certain amount of days used and won't support well anymore).
When trying boots: they should have a snug fit. No pressure points at all! A mild pressure point will only get worse during a day and cause pain at the end of the day.

If you find a deal you think is interesting, post the link/pics here. Ppl here will tell you if it's worth the coins or a ripp off.

Good luck and

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Old 04-08-2015, 04:33 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Depends on the nicks... dings on the topsheet are harmless, some superficial scratches in the base won't harm neither. Check if the edge is fine. You don't want nicks in the edge or a damaged base right at the edge.

But... how old of a board combo are you talking? Be aware tgat CL adds are full of morons which try to ripp off noobs with no clue about prices... sometimes with hilarious high prices for old crap! You can get new last years beginner boards for 200$, used (but not old!) bindings / boots for ~50$ each...

Also be very careful with the boots... don't just get a ccombo cos it's temting n cheap without having tried the boots carefully. They are the most important part of your gear, the one part which causes most problems (endless list of ppl with foor pain, pressure points a.s.o.). Go to a shop with a good selection and try many boots to get a feeling for what fits and what not. You can buy slightly used boots if you want, there are enough opl who only used them a few times and gave up snowboarding, but don't buy old used boots (they break in after a certain amount of days used ant won't support well anymore).
When trying boots: they should have a snug fit. No pressure points at all! A mild pressure point will only get worse during a day wearing and cause pain at the end of the day.

If you find a deal you think is interesting, post the link/pocs here. Ppl here will tell you if it's worth the couns or a ripp off.

Good luck and

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Also, that K2 is a rip. Too much.

*edit: Neni, great choice for your new avatar pic!
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Old 04-08-2015, 09:17 AM   #4 (permalink)
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also at this point in yours or if this is for your girl (not sure whom this is) learning curve of riding, are you sure you want to spend money getting gear?
Hoping you or your girl enjoy riding to keep at it but if you are still on the bunny hill and/or greens is this sport something you enjoy and are going to stick with.
Sometimes ppl try, get excited, buy the gear, then end up not liking it. Now you stuck trying to sell the gear. Not saying this is the case just saying maybe renting for a little more till you/they decide for sure this is a sport they want to continue enjoying.

Also don't forget buying used now, the season is over or nearly over in many places meaning you really wont get good use from a used board this season meaning by the time you get on it next year it's another year old and the value has dropped again.

Neni had some great info. Ask questions and/or post pics. Lots of ppl will chime in to try to help.
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This was my experience/thought-process: YMMV

I personally chose the well-used board that was only a couple seasons old. It definitely has some blemishes and dings but it's only 2-3 years old and the base/edges were fine. My reasoning was that I'd rather buy a board from someone that put it to good use for a couple seasons and therefore probably knew how to care for it, store it, etc. I can always keep it around for early/late season riding (exposed rocks/dirt/branches and catching back up on your riding skill). It can also be used as a loaner board if I go with a friend that has no gear of their own.

With an older board that hasn't been used much there are too many questions and variables for me to feel comfortable. Why didn't the previous owner use it during their 7 years or whatever of ownership? Did they ever leave it in any extreme conditions like sitting in a hot garage all summer or in a damp basement? Did it spend a year underneath a 50 lb box of winter clothes in storage? These are the kinds of things that I think would affect performance much more than surface blemishes (warped core).

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also at this point in yours or if this is for your girl (not sure whom this is) learning curve of riding, are you sure you want to spend money getting gear?
Hoping you or your girl enjoy riding to keep at it but if you are still on the bunny hill and/or greens is this sport something you enjoy and are going to stick with.
Sometimes ppl try, get excited, buy the gear, then end up not liking it. Now you stuck trying to sell the gear. Not saying this is the case just saying maybe renting for a little more till you/they decide for sure this is a sport they want to continue enjoying.

Also don't forget buying used now, the season is over or nearly over in many places meaning you really wont get good use from a used board this season meaning by the time you get on it next year it's another year old and the value has dropped again.

Neni had some great info. Ask questions and/or post pics. Lots of ppl will chime in to try to help.
Some good points you made. On the flip side I found that finally buying my own gear made everything SO much more enjoyable than the dinky rental I was using. Ice sheets no longer gave me a pucker factor of 1000! Also, prices are better now than buying in-season no? I know everything is on sale now but is there a point when everything gets price-dropped massively? This is my first season so I'm wondering if I should hold off on some purchase until like Memorial Day or something. Is there a general time?

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You should buy now before your sizes all disappear. You can wait till later but you may not have your sizes unless you are looking for extremely small size or extremely large size.
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I bought my 1st board my 2nd season, but it was also the board a buddy borrowed me to save me on rental costs. It was nearly 10 yrs old. He didn't know much about boarding and was asking $150. I did my research on it's value and I showed him my research. We agreed on $50 and it was a great board for me to learn on.

It became a spare board for buddies to save them $$$ on rentals too.

Remember this is also just one expense in a long line of expenses. Outer wear from head to toe can really add up. Boots ones that fit correctly, can be found on CL or eBay etc, but are usually used as spares or borrowing to buddies. As after a few years they are worn out anyway.
Lift ticket or season pass add that cost.

So to my original point a few posts up. Before one commits to buying some used gear make sure this is the sport you want to do in the winter. As this is just the tip of the ice berg in costs.
Yes you can do it with all used gear, nothing wrong with that, but it's still money you need to have.

As to best time, my guess is end of season. No proof just experience of buying cycles. Sometimes one just stumbles across great buys when they happen to show up. CL, rummage sales, estate sale, Goodwill etc.
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I bought my 1st board my 2nd season, but it was also the board a buddy borrowed me to save me on rental costs. It was nearly 10 yrs old. He didn't know much about boarding and was asking $150. I did my research on it's value and I showed him my research. We agreed on $50 and it was a great board for me to learn on.

It became a spare board for buddies to save them $$$ on rentals too.

Remember this is also just one expense in a long line of expenses. Outer wear from head to toe can really add up. Boots ones that fit correctly, can be found on CL or eBay etc, but are usually used as spares or borrowing to buddies. As after a few years they are worn out anyway.
Lift ticket or season pass add that cost.

So to my original point a few posts up. Before one commits to buying some used gear make sure this is the sport you want to do in the winter. As this is just the tip of the ice berg in costs.
Yes you can do it with all used gear, nothing wrong with that, but it's still money you need to have.

As to best time, my guess is end of season. No proof just experience of buying cycles. Sometimes one just stumbles across great buys when they happen to show up. CL, rummage sales, estate sale, Goodwill etc.
Yeah that's a great point. I could do a running tally of money I spent so far (not even including lift, gas/tolls, food etc) but the number might hurt my head. And that's with buying used/bargain gear whenever possible.
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I wouldn't start tallying if I were you. You will only end up being sad..
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Yeah that's a great point. I could do a running tally of money I spent so far (not even including lift, gas/tolls, food etc) but the number might hurt my head. And that's with buying used/bargain gear whenever possible.
It's all voluntary...
Don't moan abt the expense - what you get in return is worth every minute in the treadmill. I know what I work for...
(k... I admit that I actually like my work... but I would love it more to ride big lines every day, which has its costs... so the treadmill argument counts )
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