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Question First time snowboarding last weekend.

Finally went snowboarding last weekend for the first time. Loved it. Definitely planning to go again, but I think this season is over here. I have a few questions of course.

I took an hour lesson , it was pretty good. I learned how to put the board on , do heel and toeside turns , glide on the flat , how to stand , how to get on the lift . I used to skateboard pretty heavily , and I think that helps a bit with the "feel" of things . I need to remember to keep my knees bent and not to turn the upper half of my body.

Over the course of the day I had pretty much "mastered" the smallest green trail , and explored all the other green trails without falling tons .

I was at Timberline in WV , the previous week the temps were in the 70s and on the day I went out , it was raining and 50 dropping to upper 30s by later in the day. As a result I got soaked , I think rule 1 should be anticipate everything getting wet .

Question 1:

Due to the conditions the snow was fairly wet/slushy . How does this effect the way I was riding ? Is this harder , easier then other types of snow ? Faster ? Slower ? My instructor said it was decent to learn on .

Question 2 :

Most of my falling was due to my apprehension of going real fast. Whats the best way to control speed ? Just carving back and forth ? I was able to stop pretty well.

Question 3:

What should I be working on next ? I can heelside and toeside , probably continue to get the feel of that , I can stop relatively well. Next step ? Another lesson ?

Question 4 , gear :

I will only spend 2-4 days max next season snowboarding , so I will probably rent for next season again. If I go more after that , probably buy used. What I think I will buy is a helmet , goggles and probably a small pack . Good plan ?

Helmet recommendations ? Goggles ? Pack ?
I figure the goggles and pack will be useful outside of snowboarding anyways .

Thanks in advance.

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Yes.... decent to learn on .

Question 2 :
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Question 4 , gear :
Buy used board, bindings,

Helmet that fits, goggles that fit and have the right lens for the light/vis conditions...pack not needed.
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- best way to control speed is proper turns, turning uphill will wash off a lot of speed and if you fall while doing it you have a shorter distance to fall

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- push your knees out along the length of the board, relaxed and bent knees, straight back (no bending or twisting at the waist), arms relaxed by your side, pedal

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- buy boots (see the boot fitting thread, wiredsports is the resident boot sizing/fitting/recommendation person) and spend the rest on lessons (that is if you already have all of the outerwear ... if not then get decent outerwear, a helmet that fits your head and some decent impact pants). board, bindings and that sorta stuff is something to focus on if you are going to do a lot of boarding ... rental stuff, while never the same and potentially can be pretty bad, is still cheaper than having to buy the luggage and deal with lugging it around and potentially getting to your destination without it

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1. Slushy is probably the best kind of snow to learn on. You won't go fast on slushy.
2. I highly doubt you are carving after one day but yes, making turns allow you to slow down. Worse case a speed check if you are going way too fast.
3. Next step would be do it without thinking about what you are doing. It needs to become second nature.'
4. As for gear, get whatever fits your body and budget.

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Finally went snowboarding last weekend for the first time. Loved it. Definitely planning to go again, but I think this season is over here. I have a few questions of course.

I took an hour lesson , it was pretty good. I learned how to put the board on , do heel and toeside turns , glide on the flat , how to stand , how to get on the lift . I used to skateboard pretty heavily , and I think that helps a bit with the "feel" of things . I need to remember to keep my knees bent and not to turn the upper half of my body.

Over the course of the day I had pretty much "mastered" the smallest green trail , and explored all the other green trails without falling tons .

I was at Timberline in WV , the previous week the temps were in the 70s and on the day I went out , it was raining and 50 dropping to upper 30s by later in the day. As a result I got soaked , I think rule 1 should be anticipate everything getting wet .

Question 1:

Due to the conditions the snow was fairly wet/slushy . How does this effect the way I was riding ? Is this harder , easier then other types of snow ? Faster ? Slower ? My instructor said it was decent to learn on .

Question 2 :

Most of my falling was due to my apprehension of going real fast. Whats the best way to control speed ? Just carving back and forth ? I was able to stop pretty well.

Question 3:

What should I be working on next ? I can heelside and toeside , probably continue to get the feel of that , I can stop relatively well. Next step ? Another lesson ?

Question 4 , gear :

I will only spend 2-4 days max next season snowboarding , so I will probably rent for next season again. If I go more after that , probably buy used. What I think I will buy is a helmet , goggles and probably a small pack . Good plan ?

Helmet recommendations ? Goggles ? Pack ?
I figure the goggles and pack will be useful outside of snowboarding anyways .

Thanks in advance.


Any snow other than ice or morning hardpack is good. Buy impact shorts NOW. Not after you get hurt (like me) I also use Level protective gloves.

Riding is like biking. If you try to turn going too slow you fall inside the turn itself. Speed is good for balance.

If you buy gear start from boots and helmet. Try boots until you find a comfortable pair with no heel lift.

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Riding is like biking. If you try to turn going too slow you fall inside the turn itself. Speed is good for balance.


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While this is true, I think in starting out it has the opposite effect of what you want, which is to learn turns. I was taught that if you can turn slow, you can turn fast. Long slow traverses across the mountain will really make you think about what's going on and how you're doing it.

I think too many people use speed as a metric for progression. After 3 days they haul ass down the mountain doing nothing but speed checks. That's not learning technique.
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While this is true, I think in starting out it has the opposite effect of what you want, which is to learn turns. I was taught that if you can turn slow, you can turn fast. Long slow traverses across the mountain will really make you think about what's going on and how you're doing it.

I think too many people use speed as a metric for progression. After 3 days they haul ass down the mountain doing nothing but speed checks. That's not learning technique.
Good point but I didn't mean speed as in ride faster, but in turning with enough speed, as you do on a bicicle, to not fall inside the turn itself. If you go too slow and lean toward the turn direction, you will fall unless the centrifugal force countering your body lean isn't high enough. Just like riding a bicicle, much harder to turn if you go too slow.
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I know, just wanted to chime in to make sure he didn't read it as 'go fast, its easier!' Going real slow really works those foot muscles that are the basis of everything and you really learn how to flex the board to initiate.
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pack not needed.
I only put pack down because I am with my 2 kids and need someplace for some snacks , sunscreen , water, extra gloves for them ,camera , hat/sunglasses for chilling out next to the slope to watch them , etc...

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I only put pack down because I am with my 2 kids and need someplace for some snacks , sunscreen , water, extra gloves for them ,camera , hat/sunglasses for chilling out next to the slope to watch them , etc...
In that case yes.... a pack is a necessity!

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