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Not to Miss Runs @ Whistler/Blackcomb
Calling all WB regulars. First timers to WB. :yahoo:
Every mountain has some runs that everyone rates highly. What are the "not to miss" runs at WB? We are a crew of 5 heading out next Sunday for 4 days and want to make sure we don't miss any of the best stuff. We are not yet ready for the "steep and deep" stuff, but would like to get a taste for the bowls and we can all handle fast high speed Blues.
Also, should we get lucky and the sun shines, is there a best plan of attack to chase it for the day?
For high speed blues, my favorite are from the crystal ridge express chair. Rock'n'roll and ridge runner being my fav.
After you do those it's super easy to access glacier express chair, if you want to try something more challenging or jersey cream express chair if you want to go to the whistler side.
Since you have 4 days, I wouldn't worry about the "not to miss" runs. Just explore and have fun. You'll discover your own favs.
Blackcomb glacier! Pretty much as steep as you want it to be,
Thats the run that made me absolutely fall in love with Whistler.
Another vote for rock'n'roll and pretty much anything on Crystal.
I'll be there in 4 days, all the way from OZ will be there for 7 days. So I have a keen eye on the runs that are mentioned here.
The runs off of the 7th Heaven Express are bathed in sunlight in the morning - if the sun is out - and is some of the most stunning scenery I've ever seen. If you like Blue's then hit Hugh's Heaven, Cloud Nine, and Panorama - you can't go wrong.
For strong blue riders from Onterrible do the following:
1) on a warm sunny day, catch the last chair to the top of seventh heaven.
1a) buy a beer on the patio at the horstmann hut when you get to the the top.
1b) take some pictures of the splendid landscape and views around you
1c) wait, take your time
1d) wait some more
1e) wait some more (all this time the mountain is draining out the rest of population)
1f) by now you should have been on that patio for 45 mins (maybe that's two beers, maybe you smoke a cigar while you're up there too)
1g) get back on your board, you've now got 5000 vertical feet almost all to yourself, don't go back down seventh heaven but instead take the Green Line back to the Rendezvous lodge and then you can take whatever route you want.
1h) if you don't mind overpaying for your drinks, ride out to blackcomb base and have a Sidecar on the patio or in the Mallard room at the Fairmont, otherwise go to Garibaldi and drink cheap beer on the patio there
1i) sometimes if you're lucky and stay up there long enough you will meet some groomers on the way down and get to ride corduroy for your last run
other must do's:
go to Mountain equipment coop and buy the whistler guidebooks, there's one advanced and one for regular riders, detailed photos and ratings of every run at whistler and lots of unmarked ones, read that book before you go and you'll be extra stoked.
-when you go to seventh heaven take the expressway green not the seventh avenue green, the seventh avenue green is a horrid cat track that's not even flat, its like a ten minute traverse on one edge, if you're a goofy rider your calves will be burning
-rock and roll/twist and shout/backstage pass off the crystal chair supposed to be among the best blues in north America
-access the glacier off the showcase T-bars - the middle part is typically groomed and it's a steep blue. if you go left or right of that blue area its steeper
-seventh heaven is also good in the morning, and the middle section of seventh is a good area to go off the trails to look for snow that's not tracked out, and if it's too much for you it's not that far to get back to groomers.
-jersey cream wall off the jersey cream chair, to your right when you ride on the chair is a pretty steep pitch that's not very long. Try this out, and depending on how you feel about that you will then have a sense of whether you want to go on the steeper stuff, it's a good way to get a taste of steeper terrain where you can still bail out; most of the steep stuff at whistler blackcomb once you're in it you're committed, for example spankys' ladder has no easy way out.
-my favorite place for lunch is the glacier lodge on blackcomb
-expect some long shitty flat terrain on whistler side, it's not optimized for snowboarders, and some runs are not cut down the fall line, but rather across
-symphony and harmony bowls are must do's, also be sure to do a run down harmony ridge, great views. Towards the bottom of harmony ridge you can go skiers left into the boomer bowl, another good way to try out some of the steeper terrain but not crazy steep, and not too long a run if you find it's more than you bargained for
-take the peak chair to the top and do the Saddle, it's a long blue, if there's fresh snow either side of the saddle can be nice, if no fresh snow it is often tracked out on each side
-take the peak chair and do upper peak to creek for sure, check the grooming report before you do lower peak to creek, if it's not groomed it can be literally miles of moguls - if you're ok with steeper terrain, make a right turn off the upper peak to creek into whistler bowl, Monday's, etc, or a bit later make a right turn into the bagel bowl. Hit the wall first as described above on blackcomb side to get a sense of whether you will enjoy the steeper terrain or hate it.
-dave murray downhill and lower franz both leave you in creekside where you can have a beer at the iconic Dusty's, and both are fun runs to charge down
-if you can handle an early morning get the fresh tracks ticket, have breakfast on the hill and get either fresh snow or fresh corduroy ahead of the mob. this is a good way to get you final day in, come off the hill around noon, dash to the airport and fly out at 4 or 5 pm
on your return to Ontario do not go on a hill till next year, you will hate it
Lamps, you are too kind. :bowdown:
Are you sure you did not write the guidebook? I am going to print this, take it with me and try to get a good grip on all the info before we are wheels up.
Thanks everyone for your insight. You guys & girls are the best. :eusa_clap:
Looking forward to a great trip. Hopefully we will stop and take pics along the way and I'll post upon our return.
So much too explore so little time......thank you to all above for your suggestions.
Google Earth, will blow your mind:ohmy:
You can zoom in & out, move the camera up, down, spin it around either mtn.:yahoo:
It's so fuckin' clear you can zoom in on single trees & see their shadows.
Wouldn't chya know,:giggle: It just happened to be a blue bird day:eusa_clap:
Definitely plan your attack:thumbsup:
It's setup to funnel people wherever they decide that day.
Have a map with you,
This is a must, it is so fuckin' huge you'll have no idea where you are if you don't.
Put a few in a couple different pockets.
When you get there, there will be the big sign with which runs & chairs are open.
If you fluke out & land on a powder day?
Pull out your map, you should be able to see the funnel of open runs designed to keep everyone in that toilet bowl.
Prick yourself in the finger.:unsure: Now drag a bloody line down that route.
That's where 90% of all the people there are gonna be.
The farther you venture from the shitty toilet bowl, the less tracked out it's gonna be.
Powder or no.
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