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Old 12-16-2011, 10:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 12-16-2011, 02:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 12-21-2011, 07:53 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Noooooo!!! Terrible news to get during the Christmas season (or anytime)
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Old 12-21-2011, 08:14 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Heard about this... it really sucks. Louise got better after RCR sold it.
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Old 12-22-2011, 06:43 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Like my buddy from Golden pointed out though... despite RCR's terrible reputation, they can't really do much worse than the current KH ownership
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Maybe they'll put a mid station on the gondola?

I'm curious, though. I know nothing about RCR. I'm not a westerner, but I have spent a week at KH and am heading out again in January. It seems to me that there hasn't been a big investment in hill infrastructure by the current owners: there's a gondola, a quad and an ancient double that goes nowhere. Most new things there appear to be strictly real estate oriented. Then again, I don't know what it was like before

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Old 12-23-2011, 09:37 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I know a mid station is wanted by many but I think it would be a bad thing. It would just mean people could lap the best terrain faster which would track it out quick on pow days.

I wouldn't hold my breath on RCR spending anymore money there. The owners just want the 2 km x 8km stretch of land at the base to develop condos.
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Bones, you are seeing it exactly as it has been. Not to mention the locally named "stairway to nowhere" chair
So if RCR buys it, then probably nothing will change really. (continue with slow real estate development, and little or no on-hill development)
I'm one of the people who would like to see a mid-station...
- lap any of bowls/ridges
- lap the lower mountain (and especially better for the families too)
- a month longer season for both skiing and biking
- help alleviate that ridiculous gondola line at the bottom
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Old 12-23-2011, 05:28 PM   #9 (permalink)
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So it sounds like RCR would be kinda "experience neutral"? Build real estate, keep the hill as is? With the possibility of bigger crowds and higher ticket prices?

I kinda saw the darker side of the way larger resort companies operate when Interwest bought Tremblant. At first, it seemed great with all the real estate infrastructure being built, but when they started having cash problems, then "the squeezing the cash out of guests at every opportunity" started.

I still like Tremblant, but I don't go on weekends and I avoid all holidays and school break weeks. And I bring my own lunch and I don't stay for a beer and I only use the singles line and I never ever use the gondola if at all possble.

I'm just curious as to why people are "disliking" this KH purchase, sounds like RCR isn't going to be much different than the current owners. What did RCR do to Lake Louise?
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The reason many people dislike RCR is not because they favor Real Estate vs 'on hill expansion'. The vast majority of ski resort ownerships operate this way (after all, it is a business and the point is to make money, which is done from real estate, not from ticket sales)
The reason everyone hates RCR is because of their terrible customer service history. In regards to Lake Louise specifically, one of the major contributing incidents was a few years back when a customer paralyzed himself on a park jump and somehow managed to successfully sue RCR afterward for a sizable chunk of money which led to RCR pulling the jumps from all of their resorts. (what happend to the liability waiver?)
I'm pretty sure almost everyone would agree that Louise was a better hill before, and has been since, RCR ownership. There was also the whole Foretress/Nakiska fiasco as lightly mentioned above.
There are countless other 'small' incidents relating to money grabbing, poor customer service, and employee treatment at RCR hills.
(ps: it's not just out West... everyone here in Quebec hates RCR too)
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